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i was able to edit correctly and get the characters to look how i wanted, i used start_time and start_date to get the version of those i needed, and i even added timezone for clearification further on the automation needs moving forward for reference. So i see how you used $i the i believe its $i++ was that to say count incrementally higher ? and if so is this same thing possible only using a-z intead of 0-9

Thank you very much for your time and examples, I'm going to deep dive into your code and examples and see if I can play with that array and dig around to get different responses for practice. and I'll also investigate the datetime class details and see if there's a way to break it down further and make it a more readable format. Really impressed with your ability to explain in great detail. very glad i accidentally bumped into this place, and I plan to be a long time frequent user of the forums here