[!--quoteo(post=379762:date=Jun 3 2006, 05:09 PM:name=knowram)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(knowram @ Jun 3 2006, 05:09 PM) [snapback]379762[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--] I have worked around the problem so while not solved it is not needed any more. thank you all for your help [/quote] Something to think about. What I do in these circumstances is to define the "Value" of my check box outside of the form tag and the call the variable in the Tag. Example: $Text = "If no improvement in ".$Improve." hours then continue with text description here"; Then in the value section of your form tag use: Value = "<? echo $Text ?>" Might help you...