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I have been looking through through PHP frameworks and these are probably my top 6 based on both popularity and my personal preferences. I am going to be going through all of them building a blog to see which one I like best but I figure I would ask this question. If you had to choose 1 of these 6 frameworks to work with, which one would it be? Also if you want, tell me why you choose the one you did or why you didn't pick a particular framework.

As far as the Zend framework goes, the one thing I don't like about it is that it is just way to big. Sure it has a lot of features but personally I don't think I would hardly need a lot of them. It also has other issues too including a steep learning curve from what I here. I might also try building a blog with Zend for testing but it is not high on my list of things to look at. As far as what I want the framework for. I basically just want a solid foundation in which I can build website/web applications off of. One important things for me (not sure how important it is for my company) is performance. From what I have heard, Yii has pretty efficient code compared to frameworks like Zend or Symfony (which I here is a kind of slow framework as far as performance). You can have all the features in the world but if you are not efficient then it does not matter much to me. I am just trying to find a framework with a good balance of efficiency and performance and something that does not seem like it is going to see like it is going to die off in the next year (of course no one can truly predict the future)..

Well I am stopping the development of my PHP Framework as I think I have learned everything I wanted to from it and I really don't have the time to continue and maintain the development of it. So I am looking into a framework I want to focus all my attention to (I also need to evaluate framework for work). Yii is one that has come up that looks pretty good. It seems to have pretty good features, good performance, and for being around only 14 months (when the first official released happened back in Dec of 2008) is has a pretty good user base. Does anyone have any experience using this framework? I am probably going to be testing a few frameworks this weekend creating a simple blog and see how good development is with each of them along with performance tests. The frameworks I think I will be testing are CakePHP, Symfony, and Yii, anyone think I should be testing any others.

NOTE: I posted this last night but now it is gone. If someone is going to delete it again, please pm me and let me know why. I have been developing a framework for the past 3 years now (even tho the first year and a half it was really just a collect of a few classes) and it has transformed itself into a pretty usable MVC framework (at least for me). I am at a point with the framework where I feel good about releasing it to the public and getting whatever feedback I can on it. You can download it at www.elegantmvcorg. On that page, along with the download, you will find a set of videos that should help you get started with the framework, I hope to get a video on models up soon (by this weekend at the latest). If you can, please download and try out the framework and give me any feedback you can (was it too hard to setup, a missing feature you think should be there, a bug you found, etc...). Please send feedback to feedback@elegantmvc.com. I will be updating this post as I make changes to the framework or upload new videos.

Um, the .NET framework has nothing specifically to do with the internet or networking programming (even tho you can do both with it), it is just the name of there newest general platform framework.

Well I did find my answer here: http://www.php.net/license/index.php#faq-lic

The way I look at it is that would you say that a image I create in Photoshop a secured piece of work? Techincally when I release my framework, I am not releasing the php software in binary or source form, I am just releasing the source php runs.

I guess i will wait to hear back from the php group. I guess I will in the meantime try to figure out another good name

I am getting ready to release my first publicly available alpha version of my framework and have a question about naming. I know in the PHP license it states: "Products derived from this software may not be called "PHP", nor may "PHP" appear in their name, without prior written permission from group@php.net" This only refers to products that actually use the PHP source in source or binary form, correct? That framework does not include the PHP,it only uses PHP to work which means I could not have to get permission from group@php.net to include PHP in the name of my framework? I know there are a number frameworks that use PHP in their name like CakePHP but not sure if there did get permission. Just asking what people know about the license, not asking for real lawyer advice. I did send an email to group@php.net but really want to get this first alpha out A.S.A.P.

Well neither would I but I have to use Windows for the server for another program (that can't be run under a VM).

Does this mean I would suffer the same issue if running Apache and PHP under Windows?

Nice one. I am just trying to find some good reasons to use apache with php (on windows). I have more experience with apache and don't really feel like learn another server, I also hear that mod rewrites are a pain in the ass with IIS.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of running PHP on Apache vs IIS?

Now I know I can use the © and ™ marks without having to register anything with the government, the only symbol I can't use is ®, but is it really worth while to spend the money of registering a name for open source software. I am building a PHP framework and set of jQuery plugins and I am currently housing them under the same project name. Just wondering what I really gain by registering the trademark.

Is there a list somewhere of all the functions that are going to be removed in PHP 6? I know it is listed in each function page on the PHP website but is there a list of all of them on one page? I know PHP 6 is probably at least a year or year and a have away but I want to make sure My PHP framework, which is only works on PHP 5.3+, is going to be as compatible with PHP 6 as possible.