Hi, Yes thanks yum is indeed cli and a wonderful little bit if kit, however it doesn't allow me to configure the instalation (as far as I know) and as php5 is installed by default with mysql off, it hasn't helped me directly. I did soldier on and do a full compile of php5 with the options i need. Everything seemed to go ok in the build but when I restarted apache, I have no php support. Bummer. Removing php and replacing it via yum works fine but of course I still can't use mysql, is it possible to configure yum install to do a non standard instalation? Am still fiddling with it, any advice greatly appreciated.