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Ken2k7, I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to but multi-tasking isn't one of my strong points. Finding the free time - outside of work - to both read about patterns whilst writing my own application and also using a framework for another application would be hard. I guess there's no easy answer - I'll just have to suck it up and spend a number of weekends hammering away at this. Thanks for your answers guys.

Thanks for the info xtopolis. I'm reading through a book called "PHP Architect's Guide To PHP Design Patterns (2005)". The code examples feel a little old, but the explanations seem pretty good. But as I hinted at earlier - I find the concepts hard to grasp unless I'm actually doing it myself. I agree that frameworks aren't teaching me. I can see that they're using many patterns - but aren't familiar enough with them myself to fully understand what is going on. As such, I feel that perhaps I should be creating this application by myself without the help of a framework just so I can improve my knowledge and learn about patterns through doing it (will include trial and error). I guess my biggest fear is making really bad design choices. I don't want to have to do *huge* code re-factoring because I've totally stuffed up the implementation and limited myself in the process.

I've been a PHP developer for about 6 years now - the last two years I have been pretty inactive though. Just recently though, I have been reading resources on all the different programming patterns (Factory, Singleton, Registry, Observer, etc) to try and get my head around good programming techniques. For myself though I find that I can only truly understand how these methods work when I am forced to do them myself. I have a large project I am doing at my workplace (me only) that involves building a very complex PHP application. I would like to know your professional opinion; should I spend the extra time to program this PHP application myself and really, properly learn all these different programming patterns? Or, should I just build on top of a PHP framework like the Zend Framework for speed's sake (and flexibility/features)? I have found understanding exactly how the Zend Framework works hard, just because I haven't been exposed to using these programming patterns myself. I hate that - I want to fully understand exactly what is happening in my application and know exactly how each part relates to others. Thanks in advance!

This is my first post on this forum so forgive me if I sound like an utter n00b. I am trying to compile php 5.1.4 with mysql 5.0.22, apache 2.2.2, openssl 0.9.8b, gd 2.0.33, jpeglib v6b and zlib 1.2.3. The configure options I am using are as follows: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/php \ --mandir=/usr/local/man \ --with-apxs2=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs \ --with-openssl=/usr/local/ssl \ --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql \ --enable-bcmath \ --with-gd \ --with-gd-dir=/usr/local \ --with-zlib \ --with-zlib-dir=/usr/local \ --with-jpeg-dir=/usr/local Configuring PHP succeeds, but when I go to 'make' PHP I get the errors in the attached txt file. Please have a look and give any help where possible! Thankyou, and I hope to enjoy my stay on these forums! [attachment deleted by admin]