ambertch

Do you happen to have a link somewhere with examples of functionalities/things which should be part of the m, v, c? Like for example displaying a sortable table. I could definitely say the CSS and non-table html is part of the view... the controller has the db abstraction layer? And what about the php that generates the html for the table? The table's a view, but content should be generated by the model. Yeah, I'm confused

Well I respectfully don't think this is a good analogy. In the case of tools, each tool does something different with little overlapping functionality. Frameworks on the other hand all do the same end task which is build a site, but have different footprints, modules, support for xyz libraries i dunno (I myself am new to frameworks) So it would be helpful if there was a comparison matrix out there somewhere. Wikipedia has a comparison matrix of web development frameworks across all languages, but it's kind of metric based and non-descriptive, un-meaningful in english

Cobalt - you need to realize that no "website god" decided one day "Hm I will create php/mysql/js/html to all interact. Then I will put in xmlhttprequest and wait for people to discover ajax!" This has nothing to do about literature or documentation, these languages/technologies are separate, but as time went on people discovered that they could be used together to good effect. It's like LAMP servers - obviously linux/apache/mysql/php are completely separate entities - nobody DECIDED they would interact, they just do As for a diagram of how they interact - I'm sure there's something like this out there somewhere.... but then the diagram would just be exactly what dom_scott wrote to you. So you could save trouble by just reading what he said and drawing a picture I guess?

I need a php user management script to replace a hand coded basic one I am using. I need it to track parameters useful for doing analytics such as time of login, total login/surfing time, etc. Now I think these features are (fairly) straightforward to implement, the login times being just another table of User_id/time() or $_SERVER['REQUEST_TIME'] and total login/surfing time on the site (assuming the user does not explicitly logout) can be approximated with accumulating time() as a session variable at each session_start(). I however would prefer to get one that's been coded with far more expertise and security features than my meager skills Would be great if there was a GUI/admin feature that did some analytics, but at the most basic level login times and surfing times in a DB table will suffice So anybody know a user management script (paid or free) that has these features built in? Thanks a bunch in advance!