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Makari

Retrieving Browser Settings while JS is disabled?

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Hello,

I'm looking for a way to retrieve information about a client's browser.

Basically, I CAN get the information that I need by using JavaScript, but that is an undesirable option as JavaScript can be disabled.

The only portion that I REALLY NEED to know is the browser window's viewable dimensions.

What I am trying to accomplish is to determine the viewer's window settings so that I may layout the page accordingly so that it all fits within the window (barring certain sizes that would be TOO small to be readable).

I'm (obviously) using a database to store the data to be displayed in XML format which is then queried for and returned via php. My goal is to make the ENTIRE site cross-platform and W3C compliant while not allowing options for the user to 'break' the page (such as disabling a necessary display script, due to paranoia).

If anyone knows a way to do this using PHP, or any other method, feel free to help out.

Thanks,

Makari

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PHP most definitely not, and I believe not much other than asp or something similiar

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php runs on the server, not the client.

[!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]and I believe not much other than asp or something similiar[/quote]
Asp also runs on the server.

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Confound it all. I was hoping there was a server-side solution that I could implement. After all, the client must request the page from the server...there should be some way to get basic settings (nothing jeopardizing secure information) from the client to a script without utilizing a scripting system that can be just be 'turned off' by the user.

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