how did you learn..?
Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:02 PM
Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:04 PM
Well, I say I started
It was a case of Jumping in the Deep end to build something for someone, I asked a lot of help.
I also find reading posts on the forums help
If you cant help, but think it could be useful, watch out for the answer. Then you know.
Thats why i spend a lot of time helping people out in forums.
They helped me out big time when i started, now I am here to help
Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:06 PM
Edit: I missed something:
I have read other people's scripts and tutorials. I've never read a single book on programming or PHP.
Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:29 PM
Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:35 PM
It was a bit crap
Too much babling, not enough teaching
and it is all basics
Posted 21 August 2006 - 03:08 PM
I downloaded a few small scripts and studied them and rewrote them to be "better". I also looked at tutorials (mainly on here) and get alot of help from here. Now when I need help my first source is the php manual and if I can't find it there, I come back here.
Posted 21 August 2006 - 03:51 PM
Then I bought a book about php but I couldn't get too much things from that. The best and fastest way is to code instead of reading. Well but books are good for references whereever you loose you can look at them.
Of course there is also php manual, which is very very helpful but sometimes you can get lost in it. If you don't know what you are looking for exactly. And maybe the most useful thing in learning a language is the auto complete function of your IDE. with a little bit of guessing (string function should begin str,...) you can find whatever you want. This auto complete function is so great in some IDE's that you don't need to know anything (like Visual Studio or DW or Zend Studio). And by this I think that all you need to know is to know what you should write till you get to dot or "->" in PHP5
Posted 21 August 2006 - 05:54 PM
For the record, PHP is a lot harder to do than C++. At least with C++, the compiler tells you when you do stupid crap like that.
Posted 21 August 2006 - 06:30 PM
I didn't have any books and anything I needed to look up came from php.net.
Info: PHP Manual
Posted 21 August 2006 - 08:31 PM
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Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:05 AM
Please, take the time and do some research and find out how much it would have cost you to get your help from a decent paid-for source. A "roll-of-the-dice" freelancer will charge you $5-$15/hr. A decent entry level freelancer will charge you around $15-30/hr. A professional will charge you anywhere from $50-$100/hr. An agency will charge anywhere from $100-$250/hr. Think about all this when soliciting for help here. Think about how much money you are making from the work you are asking for help on. No, we do not expect you to pay for the help given here, but donating a few bucks is a fraction of the cost of what you would have paid, shows your appreciation, helps motivate people to keep offering help without the pricetag, and helps make this a higher quality free-help community
Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:24 AM
I always recommend to people who want to learn: buy a book! I love books.
Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:32 AM
Then I read, read, read. Messed with simple scripts. Made lots of dumb mistakes. Read some more. Made progressively more esoteric mistakes in coding. Read a lot - especially here as there's always something useful and new to learn.
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