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Is it "wrong" to piggyback off someone's wireless network?

  1. Yes (always) (16 votes [20.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.51%

  2. No (never) (22 votes [28.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.21%

  3. Not when it's intentionally left open. (35 votes [44.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.87%

  4. Not when it's an emergency. (5 votes [6.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.41%

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#41 Azu

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 11:06 PM

It's not the same as stealing someones car.

Ah, the old "if I can't physically touch it, then I should be able to do whatever I want to it without being punished for breaking the law" argument.
Tut tut tut...

#42 neylitalo

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 11:23 PM

It's not the same as stealing someones car.

Ah, the old "if I can't physically touch it, then I should be able to do whatever I want to it without being punished for breaking the law" argument.
Tut tut tut...


I'm afraid you missed the point. Stealing someone's car would be the same as disconnecting your neighbor's internet connection and re-routing it to your house. Piggybacking on someone's wireless network without their knowledge and/or permission is (nearly, but not quite) analogous to hopping in the car's back seat, hiding until they arrive at their destination, and then getting back out. You're not depriving them of the use of the (car|internet), but you're still benefitting from it.
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#43 Azu

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:49 PM

Except not everyone has unlimited bandwidth and connection speed.
So although it wouldn't be like completely stealing their car, it would be like stealing gas out of it that they paid for.

It makes it run out faster. It can catch them unaware and end up with them running out of it when they aren't expecting that to happen it. It makes them have to pay more money to buy more it.


ANYWAYS, a crime is a crime. Trying to say that there is a crime that is worse then it is pretty stupid. If you break the law, be prepared to be punished, and don't be surprised if you are. And if you are, don't even think of trying to tell the judge "OMG I DIDN'T STEAL A CAR OR KILL ANYONE!!!"

#44 GingerRobot

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 03:19 PM

ANYWAYS, a crime is a crime. Trying to say that there is a crime that is worse then it is pretty stupid.


That is actually one of the most rediculous things i've heard in my life! Of course some crimes are worse than others!

I guarantee that all of us "break the law" in some small way almost every day! To take just an example that spings to mind immediately; pick up a couple of books you have near you and check the copyright. Most specificially say you cannot even lend a book to someone. When was the last time you lent a book? Im sure you have at some point. Shock horror! You broke the law! Get off your high horse.

*Steps down from soap box*

Edit: Thought i should add, im not necessarily saying that it is OK to use someone elses internet - more commenting on assertion that a crime is a crime.

#45 Azu

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 04:59 PM

ANYWAYS, a crime is a crime. Trying to say that there is a crime that is worse then it is pretty stupid.


That is actually one of the most rediculous things i've heard in my life! Of course some crimes are worse than others!


No shit sherlock. Why don't you try to comprehend what I wrote?

Here I'll try to spell it out in baby words for you; no SHIT that stealing a god damned CAR is bad.
But just because one crime is worse then another crime doesn't mean it's okay to commit the other crime!
Wtf is so hard to understand about this? Sheesh!
Is it really THAT hard to follow the law?

#46 GingerRobot

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 05:09 PM

Firstly, it would probably help if you typed in comprehensible english if you want me to be able to understand you.

Second, my argument still stands. Im sure you would agree that there isn't really anything wrong with lending a book to a friend. You are, however, likely to be breaking the copyright on the book, and hence be committing a crime. In this way, i think most people would agree that breaking the law actually is acceptable in some circumstances. The real issue here is where that 'line' (which is different for everyone, and depends entirely on their morality) is.

Oh, and third, why exactly do you feel the need to be so aggressive? I, of course, dont take it personally - since it is obviously not personal, given some of your other posts.

#47 neylitalo

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 07:42 PM

Thread closed. Azu, watch your language. This is an official warning.
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#48 cgm225

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 08:43 PM

I read an interesting article here:

http://www.govtech.com/gt/262378?topic=117671

If you're not encrypting your wireless communications, anyone close by can easily use your connection and while the intention may not always be malicious, the consequences can be severe," continued Cluley. "All Internet users need to wake up to the threats and ISPs must take greater steps to educate customers about the risks and how to overcome them.


Having an unsecured wireless network is simply stupid.

#49 947740

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 04:18 PM

It is illegal, because you are stealing.  What if that person happens to be a federal worker or something crazy like that?
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#50 neylitalo

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 06:39 PM

Right. We've been over this a dozen times. (947740, read the thread first. Thanks.) I'm going to leave the thread unlocked on the off-chance that someone can provide some valuable insight on the subject, but at the first hint of anything I don't like, it's getting locked again.
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#51 448191

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:10 PM

947740, read the thread first. Thanks.


Yeah, and what's up with using 6 digits for a username? Lame...

<balloon snap/>

#52 Daniel0

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:00 PM

947740, read the thread first. Thanks.


Yeah, and what's up with using 6 digits for a username? Lame...

<balloon snap/>


Damn, now I can't refer to you as ^\d{6}$ anymore... :(

#53 448191

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:06 PM

Yes, and it had such a 'homy' feeling to it... I'll miss that.

#54 GingerRobot

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:06 PM

947740, read the thread first. Thanks.


Yeah, and what's up with using 6 digits for a username? Lame...

<balloon snap/>


Damn, now I can't refer to you as ^\d{6}$ anymore... :(


Im just trying to work out just how lame it is that i actually laughed at that.

#55 Daniel0

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:21 PM

947740, read the thread first. Thanks.


Yeah, and what's up with using 6 digits for a username? Lame...

<balloon snap/>


Damn, now I can't refer to you as ^\d{6}$ anymore... :(


Im just trying to work out just how lame it is that i actually laughed at that.


Yeah, well... I occasionally make "lame" remarks when I'm bored. I guess you'll have to live with that :P

#56 neylitalo

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Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:23 PM

947740, read the thread first. Thanks.


Yeah, and what's up with using 6 digits for a username? Lame...

<balloon snap/>


Damn, now I can't refer to you as ^\d{6}$ anymore... :(


That was good. :)
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#57 burnside

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Posted 01 May 2008 - 12:17 PM

947740, read the thread first. Thanks.


Yeah, and what's up with using 6 digits for a username? Lame...

<balloon snap/>


Damn, now I can't refer to you as ^\d{6}$ anymore... :(


I dont understand sorry :(

Scared you in an immediate and surprising way, like "Someone jumped out of the closet and I screamed like a little girl and I'm not sure, but I think soiled myself" way, or was it more of an impending doom sort of way, like "Oh crap, my girlfriend is 2 weeks late dammit I knew I should have pulled out" way?


Sorry cobin, Just funny as . . .

#58 947740

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Posted 01 May 2008 - 01:50 PM

burnside - It is a regex with 6 numbers

448191 - Sorry about that.  It was a username automatically given to me when I took an online college class, so I just figured I would use that.
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#59 448191

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Posted 01 May 2008 - 01:53 PM

No need to apologize, it was a joke.

Mine's my old personel number.

#60 947740

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Posted 01 May 2008 - 04:00 PM

I knew that.  You would have been making fun of yourself too.  Most people are not that stupid...  ;)
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