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Do you use Microsoft Frontpage??

  1. Yes (2 votes [8.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  2. No (21 votes [91.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.30%

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#61 Gast

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 04:11 PM

i don't see any popular FP clones out there

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Probably because FP isnt that popular itself.

About the DW generated code: you can always tell when a site is built in dreamweaver because in the source you see the Javascript function names of "MM_jumpMenu", etc. :)

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Posted 27 October 2005 - 04:13 PM

About the DW generated code: you can always tell when a site is built in dreamweaver because in the source you see the Javascript function names of "MM_jumpMenu", etc. :)

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hence, the reason i never use generated JS... i code everything by hand anyway... that's what DW specializes in... it sort of merges the idea of a WYSIWYG editor with the great development tools of HomeSite.
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Posted 27 October 2005 - 04:20 PM

I suppose if you're good enough at coding without WYSIWYG, anything is possible :)

However, because I'm lazy I find it good to lean back on an easy design method, and it just happens that because I've been using MS programs for years, I find Frontpage easy and quick to use.

If I had more time to learn, I might try out DreamWeaver more and PHP Design Programs



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Posted 27 October 2005 - 04:23 PM

If I had more time to learn, I might try out DreamWeaver more and PHP Design Programs

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I recommend you do. It can make your life a lot easier, espeically when coding in PHP. Because of colour-coded syntax's it makes it a lot easier to find errors and writing code.

*snip* by ober - I'm probably over my bounds here, but we shouldn't be encouraging that... mainly for legal reasons.
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Posted 27 October 2005 - 08:16 PM

I really like pspad app. it is solid and does everything that I like and need to do. it isn't a WYSIWYG editor.... but call me old fashion. I love my text editors to program with. Plus with pspad you can do more then just web stuff. It can do VB, C++, Cobal, VB, VBscript, Java, INI files, and tons more. About 29 different ones. and the ability to add more custom ones. With 8 different types of DBs. Free of course.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 09:54 PM

I only have one thing to say about micro$oft frontpage...

If Micro$oft doesn't use their own product to make their site... WHY SHOULD YOU? (cause they don't, lol)
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Posted 12 April 2006 - 08:56 AM

Heh wonderful i went on their site and the first thing i saw after i clicked security updates was

"MS06-017 - addresses a vulnerability in Microsoft Front Page Server Extensions" (they can't even spell it right lol)

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 10:04 AM

[!--quoteo(post=363934:date=Apr 12 2006, 09:56 AM:name=neewah)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(neewah @ Apr 12 2006, 09:56 AM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
Heh wonderful i went on their site and the first thing i saw after i clicked security updates was

"MS06-017 - addresses a vulnerability in Microsoft Front Page Server Extensions" (they can't even spell it right lol)
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Cant spell what right? Everything spelt correctly to me.

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Posted 14 April 2006 - 04:31 PM

dreamweaver is the 'jacuzzi' of web design. not entirely necessary to get by, but ultimately luxurious and makes life that little bit easier and sweeter.

micro$oft frontpage is the toilet that's just been used by the county curry club, complete with ringlets of runny bowel movements smeared up the back, front and sides, that has had no effort to be cleaned up whatsoever.

i could go on, but i'm sure i've made my point clear.
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Posted 15 April 2006 - 12:39 PM

Sorry i'm being picky - FrontPage is one word

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Posted 15 April 2006 - 04:31 PM

[!--quoteo(post=365057:date=Apr 15 2006, 01:39 PM:name=neewah)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(neewah @ Apr 15 2006, 01:39 PM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
Sorry i'm being picky - FrontPage is one word
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and you're definitely not the first to say that FrontPage doesn't deserve the space... ;)
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Posted 02 June 2006 - 03:35 AM

[!--quoteo(post=167777:date=Oct 21 2004, 08:40 AM:name=Cook)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Cook @ Oct 21 2004, 08:40 AM) View Post[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
I must confess, I bought it, FP2003. I should have broken my leg that day instead.

I now code everything by hand, I mean everything, PHP, JS, HTML, CSS, SQL, with a simple yet good text editor, with syntax highlighting for many languages and powerful find/replace capabilities.

I'm a bit of a control freak. Generated code scares me, so inefficient, so unreadable, so unmaintainable, you name it.
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i use frontpage for 2 reasons

A: i found fp2003 on ebay for $30 true holygram cd
B: to organise my site with the folders pane and not have to go into explorer to get to my other pages

but i never acculy use the design mode....... i like the color thing too because if the hole things blue i know i made a screw up!....lol
"Syntax error" .. WHERE THE **** IS IT?!

#73 corbin

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 02:55 AM

I use notepad++ for everything... I do have frontpage though and use it for tables everynow and then...
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 03:45 PM

I hate frontpage. I use Dreamweaver 8 because of the syntax coding. I can't stand the designer view.

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 08:37 PM

This is a really old thread. But since people have replied in it recently I'll go ahead and have my say.

Frontpage sucks. It's of no use for developers.

Dreamweaver: the code highlighting rules. Nothing beats it. But that's about it. I've never used ANY of the so called "advanced" features Dreamweaver has to offer, and most likely never will.

Since now I've discovered Zend Studio.

No, I don't get paid to praise Zend Studio (if only that were true), but I definately like it. A lot.
I've coded Visual Basic .NET in Visual Studio which makes life very very very easy on you, but this comes pretty close.
Get the trial and see what I'm talking about.

As said, the code highlighting features could use some work, but otherwise there is no PHP compatible IDE that comes even close.

Praise. I just hope it gets that 'little something' more to stand up to Visual Studio. Which is unprecedented as far as I know. If Microsoft were to incorporate PROPER php, css, xml and html support (which they'll probably never do), zend would be screwed as is.

#76 Daniel0

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 02:43 PM

Hell no. Frontpage sucks.

#77 dustinnoe

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Posted 03 September 2006 - 05:58 PM

Yeah, once! Then I saw the garbage going on with the code and decided I would rather use notepad.

Not that I use notepad, but it is better than FP!

#78 dcro2

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 01:43 AM

AAAH!! FrontPage! Oh, the evils of FrontPage... and all that IE-only compatible code...

Used it once... despised it.

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Posted 01 January 2007 - 01:58 AM

I don't use it

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#80 Ninjakreborn

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 10:45 PM

If you look at it from a technical standpoint it's understandable why so many people hate it.
When you look at a website, you can tell right off, whether it was coded by hand, and wysiwyge that is decent, or frontpage.  Frontpage allways stands out with web bot tags, and broken unvalidated code.  When I first started my career, I thought I was cool because I could build web pages with frontpages, when I got into enlightenment, and began learning validation, clean code (still not great, but I am getting cleaner and cleaner as I learn more), then I gave up frontpage.  XHtml can be memorized in half the time it takes to learn frontpage anyway, along with a good amount of css.  It took me years to really, learn css, and I still struggle on some medium to advanced layouts.  I average 1 day per layout, coding by hand, but it triples the good qualities of avoiding frontpage. I use dreamweaver, but hand code view, however I am recently thinking about trying a good editor with great syntax hihglighting and code completion.  Frontpage however is going in the right direction as far as a program for people who know nothing about coding.  In my opinion only, fi you never want to learn hand coding, there are only 2 competitors, frontpage and dreamweaver. 

Dreamweaver is more advanced, and harder to use, and harder to understand.  However frontpage is more simply.  IT's also known that 2003 was better than 2003, and 2004 will undoubtedly be better than frontpage 2003, but I still hate, and would never use frontpage nonetheless, and don't suggest it to anyone who wants a career in it.  People who want a personal page, and don't have time to hire a developer, it's not a sin to use it, I just would personally never trust, or use it.

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