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#41 Ninjakreborn

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 10:49 PM

Perfect, you are so damn helpful.
Thanks to you, red, and zanus, (and everyone else that offered advice)
things are looking better, today, I will go througha nd do everything you suggested, and a few more rewrites on some of the content, then I will post back again here, if any passer byers want to throw out any more advice, I would appreciate that too, thanks steelmanronald06

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 10:57 PM

DONT ADJUST THE LAYOUT ANY MORE. I RECKON YOU'VE NAILED IT :)

i actually (for some reason) like the fact that the right hand side has not been closed by a border, which would have been tempting.

had a little chuckle at the trouble you're having right this second with the footer alignment. only cos i've had the same problem earlier and all too tempting to use a table...

as is the footer, drop the size of the text a little.

Thoughts and Guidlines. capitalize the T and G

i think what you're probably missing now is some icing. The cake has been baked, but it's a bit of a bland Victoria Sponge. Maybe some faint backdrop images may work. the resources sticky at the top of website critique will give you a few links to free stock photos, just to liven things up a touch.
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Posted 04 December 2006 - 10:57 PM

Ok I went ahead and implemented your ideas, anymore, and anyone else.
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Posted 04 December 2006 - 10:59 PM

DONT ADJUST THE LAYOUT ANY MORE. I RECKON YOU'VE NAILED IT Smiley

Ok, I did change the few things he suggested, as far as the background color on the leftnav, is that good, or should I go back to what I had before changing it?  I will also go ahead and do your other suggestions now.

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Posted 04 December 2006 - 11:03 PM

yeah thats what i meant - after steelmans suggestions.

y'know, i'm a little indifferent to both the cream and the old blue colour. as the cream is different, i'd go with that. you can always change it once you get a bit more confident with the theming of things.

can you vertically align the footer text and move it off its left/right edges a touch?
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Posted 04 December 2006 - 11:06 PM

Yes, I keep this post bookmarked, tomorrow, when I start working again, after getting projects done, and started up, when I work on my site again, I will do that with the footer, do another couple of rewrites on the content (still weeding out trash, and other stuff).  I finally learnt the secret to web development (be willing to shut up and take people's advice), when I swallowed my pride, and realized other people know more than me, it finally got me somewhere.  After I organize the content a little more, and rewrite it a few time's, and do some functionality (userfriendly), type features, like redo the portfolio, and some stuff, then I will post back in this post tomorrow for another critique, if anyone ahs any advice until then, go for it.

Thanks for all the help so far.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 02:42 AM

It looks really really really good! I actually love it. I give myself...i mean you, props! :)  That will be $200 USD please.  Money order or paypal.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 07:13 AM

I'm a bit baffled by the level of improvement. Surely it's not great, but it's a lot better than ANYTHING I've seen you do before.

Congrats sofar.  :)


can you vertically align the footer text and move it off its left/right edges a touch?


Agreed.

Some other tips:

[*] It generally speaking tends to look better if you have category titles for naviation in a slightly bigger font than the actual links. The links are already pretty big, so switch the size of category titles and links.
[*] Color scheme: I like the green variant, it's elegant. The yellow doesn't really match though. I recommend a light pastel green.
[*] Layout: You've gone with a simple layout, which is a good thing. I personally think your logo would look better centered, but others might dissagree.
[*] Another detail: more top padding for the first category title. Try to match it to the title in the content box.

You're coming along.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 10:21 AM

yeah i disagree about the logo. left/right aligned always better, IMO. agreed with your other points though.
this is a nice little reference (apart from being another Web2.0 reference grrrr...) that i've actually used a few times. love or hate "web 2.0", you have to admit some of the colour schemes do look quite slick:
http://www.modernlif...-colour-palette

might help you pick a better colour for your side nav.

i'm with steelman + 448191 on this one - its been a long time coming, but congrats for the improvement. now it's in the realms of a site that needs improving to make it finished, rather than before when it was in the realms of awful and amateur.
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Posted 05 December 2006 - 12:32 PM

While I agree it is certainly better, I think it has a long way to go. I know I'm using a high resolution, but you have way too much white space.  I hope you understand that white space doesn't necessarily mean it is the color white.  It is the negative empty space covering the page.  I do like the logo ;) (remember the link back), but your site does not leave me with any feeling of your being a web designer.  You need to incorporate more graphics into the site.  Nothing dramatic, but something to make it stand out just a little.  The menu has no style at all.  Some image hovers would be nice.  I know that you are no graphic artist, but you need to have a little bit in that area to be any bit successful as a web designer.  I know you claim to have your own graphic designer, and if you do, I would suggest using him for what would become your portfolio for potential clients. 

#51 obsidian

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 01:17 PM

As the others have said, this is 1000% improved over the previous versions. While there are still things that can be improved on, I definitely congratulate you on getting a decent looking site completed and up! Here is one personal critique that I'll give you, and please don't take it personally as I have to do the same thing: you need to get someone to proofread your grammar on your site. If you're going to be passing yourself off as a professional, your content needs to read professionally. For instance, on your main page, you have several grammatical errors, and there are some other changes you may want to consider besides grammar to help you come across more professionally:

My name is Joyel, welcome to my website. I am a web developer and I handle all aspects of web programming, coding, and design. I have a personal colleage, that handles all my graphic design, content writing and some other aspects. Please see my other pages on the left hand side of the page, for a full briefing on who I am, and what my whole business is about.


Consider this rewrite as my own lame attempt:

Welcome to the web development homepage of Joyel Puryear. Joyel is a web developer who handles all aspects of web programming, coding and design. Working with a personal colleague, he can also tackle graphic design, content writing and other aspects of web design. Please follow the navigation on the left for a full description of Joyel along with details of his business practices.


Maybe it's only me, but third person seems to have a more "professional" feel to it. Although, depending on your clientele, you may want to have a more "personal" feel. If this is the case, stick with the first person, but you still need to deal with the grammar and spelling issues. The paragraph I wrote above simply deals with these two things, but you can do so much more to captivate your audience on that home page!
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#52 Ninjakreborn

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 01:57 PM

I redid the footer, redid the navigation.  Went ahead and restructured the skills/services page, threw away anything that I was studying, I only left stuff I actually know.  All those languages that I just knew some basics on, I didn't feel were real experience, so I went ahead and took those off.  If someone asks, I will tell them I have been playing with it.

As for the grammer, I am about to do 2 things.
1. Run everything I have through a word doc spell checker (grammer, spelling), and then see from there. 

I write stories, fantasy, bio-modified), other not-real stories, so most of my creativity goes into those, I guess I need to work on my web-writing too.  THe way I end up working, is the first time, I write a block, or page of text, it's never real good.
Later when I am in a specific mood, I rewrite it, it's always better with each rewrite, but with stories, I am drawn away, and concentrate, so my writing abilities come out. They don't do very well in web writing, so I have him do my content, he just hasn't had itme, I will have him rewrite everything, he had done content writing for 7 years, so I try to leave any content writing for the web, up to him at the end.  So I will see if he can get on that, and get that to me, he is a friend, and we have a sliding scale relationship (payment) so that is even better.

I will probably go with red's advice on the logo, thank you for your opinion though.

jcombs_31 - I will be putting that link back as soon as my link pages goes up.

The only thing, is I can't let it interfere with clients, so I have to look at your site, I think you do web development, believe me, it doesn't mean I don't appreciate the help, I really do, in fact I will even send you money to cover it, after I am a little more financially set, clients are starting to pop up even more, because of my new advertising system.  So I will make sure I make it up to you, whether it's a link back, or monetary compensation, or sending you a couple of projects your way, when I have some extra, either way I will pay you back for the logo.

Also steelman, I am very happy with your help, it was very helpful, thanks again.

Mark - thanks for all the advice.


Thanks again everybody, from here, after I catch up some projects, I will go ahead and take care of some rewrites, I will have him rewrite it, and start adding in some graphics, any other advice that pops up thanks, thanks again for all the help.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 02:23 PM

Now that I have proven I can follow advice.  Now that I have changed enough to be able tolisten to what other people have to say, I want personal criticism right now.
What should I do for my business, for a better image, my own site's, my clients, client relations, things I should do differently.  regular advice.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 02:29 PM

what should you do?
dont let the old businessman come back. he didnt listen to advice or anything, didnt seem to do much, made wild claims that couldnt be backed up.

the new one seems to listen, apply (ie, show that he gives a toss about what others suggest), and has removed tonnes of crap which could only be described as waffle.

dont feel you need to tell the world your life story. its a fact that the most interesting people in this world are the ones that talk about you, not themselves, and just get on with things.
"you have to keep pissing in the wind to learn how to keep your shoes dry..."

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 02:49 PM

Thanks.

Now with my current site, should I go ahead now, since people told me it could be alot better, what should I do from here, shoudl I go ahead, and remove the whole site, and rebuild it, let my graphic designer get me some more layouts, and redo it even better, with more learning.
Or should I keep the current, and expand upon it with programming, usability, graphics, and try to make it even better from here on out.

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 06:38 PM

I think you should try to make your own decisions on what to do next.  Set yourself some type of goal and continue with it. 

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Posted 05 December 2006 - 11:41 PM

I think you should try to make your own decisions on what to do next.  Set yourself some type of goal and continue with it. 


I agree. I think you need to take the advice in all the previous threads to heart and decide on a realistic goal. Don't go overkill, or you'll only frustrate yourself, but do set a goal and do your best to reach it. We'll be here to give you a helping hand along the way, but you've got to take the steps yourself ;)

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 05:30 AM

Oh I like the changes!

I would take your portfolio links and make them hyperlinks. I like to be able to click on a link and not have to copy/paste to see it.

Good job :)




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