freeflyinweb Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 edit: I'm not try to advertise in any forums, and if you'll actually visit the links you'll see for yourself. Learn more about SOPA & PIPA: http://americancensorship.org/infographic.html Basically, if this is passed, sites are liable for whatever a user posts, and if a user posts copyrighted material, then the website as a whole will be filtered via dns blocking (American DNS servers anyways). This destroys internet innovation, and ideas such as Facebook, Youtube, message boards like these, will be a thing in the past. This bill is very serious. This bill has a lot of lobbyist and supporters, and has not been very prevalent in the media. My question/complaint is this: Why hasn't any of the administrators made any sort of public service announcements against this bill? This site will no-longer exist and be filtered if one idiot posts a link to a copyrighted image, video, etc. More information: http://americancensorship.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 This is currently being discussed by the staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 My question/complaint is this: Why hasn't any of the administrators made any sort of public service announcements against this bill? This site will no-longer exist and be filtered if one idiot posts a link to a copyrighted image, video, etc. I'm not sure why we haven't created a public announcement, but we are definitely aware of the situation. And it looks as though you have already started the SOPA/PIPA protest with your OP. I guess we could add a Pro/Anti poll to it and move it to Announcements sooner or later. Because nothing speaks more than numbers in a poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeflyinweb Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 My question/complaint is this: Why hasn't any of the administrators made any sort of public service announcements against this bill? This site will no-longer exist and be filtered if one idiot posts a link to a copyrighted image, video, etc. I'm not sure why we haven't created a public announcement, but we are definitely aware of the situation. And it looks as though you have already started the SOPA/PIPA protest with your OP. I guess we could add a Pro/Anti poll to it and move it to Announcements sooner or later. Because nothing speaks more than numbers in a poll. This is currently being discussed by the staff. Alright, well thank you guys for looking into this and taking the time to read this thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I'm not sure why we haven't created a public announcement, but we are definitely aware of the situation I think we're kinda waiting on any response from eric himself before moving forward. Or at least a few more admins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Liar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignace Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Censorship doesn't work on the internet. In Belgium a few websites have already been blocked, but we just register new DNS names, and they are back at square one. The same with the copyrighted material. All links will be encoded/indirectly linked to the copyrighted material. For every item they block/censor. 1000 new appear. Bureaucrats don't understand why we have called it the Web --> There is more than one way to get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Liar Nope. I'm currently at work and haven't really got the time to look at the links provided. I guess I'll check it out when I get home. You forget that I live in Aus. there's not much that happens in the U.S that I'm interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Oh I could have sworn you were part of the staff thread on the subject. Look for it, there's some good stuff in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu2000 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Liar You forget that I live in Aus. there's not much that happens in the U.S that I'm interested in. Except hockey, right? Right?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe92 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 You'd be surprised at how little this has hit the British domain. The useless BBC News has ranted on for days about Kim Jong Dead but mentioned nothing of this bill, or the one about being able to detain American citizens without trail. I have to watch things like RT to get that news, but then they put a massive bias slant on news about America. I think they still have a chip on their shoulder from the past 100 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridaflatlander Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 You'd be surprised at how little this has hit the British domain. The .... News has ranted on for days about Kim Jong ... but mentioned nothing of this bill, or the one about being able to detain American citizens without trail. There's not much in our news about it either, you read or hear about it every now and then ... but you'd think it would be all over the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickOldCar Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Some of the bigger sites are going to be doing a day long blackout of their sites against sopa. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/google-amazon-twitter-and-facebook-consider-nuclear-blackout/14307 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I wouldn't say we would do a complete blackout, nor do I think those bigger sites will. I think though that adding a 'blackout' screen on a visitors first visit on a scheduled day with 'With SOPA, you wouldn't be able to access the site and would see something like this [sample site taken down img.] We don't support these bills, and here are some resources to help fight them' would be the most beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Or better yet, along with the resources, craft up a poll... displaying the results after a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I imagine the "site blackouts" will be similar to what happened when they tried to make porn illegal: A black bar across the top of every porn site. Yes, I'm old, shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenway Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'm just glad I'm in Canada, where at least for now, none of this matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'm just glad I'm in Canada, where at least for now, none of this matters. You'd still probably feel the effects of SOPA claims. You already can't watch a youtube video if there's a copyright claim against it in the US, a SOPA claim will knock a whole website off the DNS system, and canada just piggy-backs off the US for DNS. Where in Canada are you? I have family in Montreal, Nova Scotia, and Calgary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu2000 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I've been to Montreal, Nova Scotia and Calgary ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I gotta an old buddy/roomate up in Halifax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This is turning into another "small world" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenway Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm just glad I'm in Canada, where at least for now, none of this matters. You'd still probably feel the effects of SOPA claims. You already can't watch a youtube video if there's a copyright claim against it in the US, a SOPA claim will knock a whole website off the DNS system, and canada just piggy-backs off the US for DNS. Where in Canada are you? I have family in Montreal, Nova Scotia, and Calgary. Toronto, Ontario. I meant as a web developer, in terms of hosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManiacDan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I meant as a web developer, in terms of hosting. Still though, if you have a toronto web server that disappears off google and the american DNS system, that's not going to be very good for you. Sure, you probably can't actually be imprisoned in the US, but SOPA is designed to destroy foreign websites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenway Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yes, but that's a different level of compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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