Q695 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm building a repository on github similar to a CMS kernel that can do a lot of stuff regardless of server side language, or client side programming ability (beyond HTML). Call me a rebel, but I'm tired of all the complex tools people develop that feel too bulky for you to use. What do you think of this: https://github.com/FREE-FROM-CMS/ What else needs to be added? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickOldCar Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) What else needs to be added? Everything else besides the 4 there now? I'm going by the title of "Freedom-From-CMS", a well constructed CMS has a lot into it. What you have are more like snippets to add additionally. Is piles of sites that show code snippets. Edited May 11, 2015 by QuickOldCar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignace Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Not sure what the idea is but it misses several files and it appears that whoever uses it is forced to a certain layout with no configuration available. Care to elaborate what the idea here is? And what do you mean by freedom from cms? My first thought is something like a static site generator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q695 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'm designing the snippets for quickly plugging code into someone's website for quick development, not for someone who is looking for a CMS to have a lot of pre built stuff to bring up the level of those trying to make their apps feel like an SPA without actually building an SPA from scratch if all the pieces are used. I HATE THINGS LIKE WORDPRESS, LARAVEL, ET AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ofarchades Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I HATE THINGS LIKE WORDPRESS, LARAVEL, ET AL. Why? Sincere question. Call me a rebel, but I'm tired of all the complex tools people develop that feel too bulky for you to use. This sounds like the beginnings of a programmer getting stuck in a rut, refusing to adapt to the evolving ecosystem and workflow. Sincere statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickOldCar Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 So modules without the cms. I'm all for making it simple and using imagination, others had those same ideas and they evolved into frameworks or CMS. Maybe one day we will all be reading about someone not liking FREE-FROM-CMS, hey you never know. CMS has the purpose to make non developers create websites fast and easy while also giving experienced coders a good platform to start making it custom. Frameworks make new or even experienced coders keep consistency. Why code everything from scratch when is proven working ones available, some work on a tight time schedule. If are a developer for a living is essential to know a multitude of such things or turning down work. Most have their specific uses, can't say one is bad or the other is good, depends on the person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q695 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Why do designers want people to think they're also developers? If too many people move out of development there will be a lot of problems, some want to stay in my cozy development hole, until they either move up, or for the rest of their career, because they think the CMS/framework people are WRONG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ofarchades Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 You probably won't have much of a career if you refuse to change with the times. Of course it's important to know the difference between trends that are practical and those that are just fashionable and corrosive, but frameworks and CMS and code reuse are all pretty important if you want to be an effective programmer. Laravel has definitely become quite bloated, but you don't need to use the whole framework; you can pick and choose which components you want to use in your project, much like Symfony. There's even now a Laravel-based microframework called Lumen. Maybe give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q695 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 Laravel has definitely become quite bloated, but you don't need to use the whole framework; you can pick and choose which components you want to use in your project, much like Symfony. There's even now a Laravel-based microframework called Lumen. Maybe give it a try. I saw a speech on Laravel, and wasn't impressed, because he didn't show anything on the "micro" platform, and PHP technically is its own CMS, you just need to know how to write it out. So modules without the cms. I'm all for making it simple and using imagination, others had those same ideas and they evolved into frameworks or CMS. CMS has the purpose to make non developers create websites fast and easy while also giving experienced coders a good platform to start making it custom. Frameworks make new or even experienced coders keep consistency. If are a developer for a living is essential to know a multitude of such things or turning down work. Exactly, modules without the CMS that a designer can plug in if they understand basic HTML/server language. You're not coding from scratch, you're coding from "plugs" through code view. I found a job that was looking for a "dangerous" developer, like: http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/44895/wanted-dangerous-php-developer-network-merchants-llc Some developers need to know how to code things up from scratch, and those people are going away with all the CMSes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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