C Programming.

[LiamProductions]

Hey.

 

I was interested in starting C++ Programming.

 

Firstly, Does anyone have links to tell me how to start up.

 

Does anyone know what a compiler is and what it does?

What are the file extensions with C++ ?

 

2. Is there many sites that do C++ Programming tutorials like PHP does.

 

 

THanks.

[Daniel0]

Just do a Google search for "C++ tutorial".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiler

 

The extension for C++ files are .cpp, but you could name them anything you want.

 

Also, you wrote C in the title, but C++ in the topic. They are not exactly the same thing.

[steelmanronald06]

I hear that C is better than C++ or C#.  Since the topic is here, can I get some opinions? Naturally, there are going to be differences, but what is recommended/preferred.

[neylitalo]

I hear that C is better than C++ or C#.  Since the topic is here, can I get some opinions? Naturally, there are going to be differences, but what is recommended/preferred.

 

C has been around for 35 years, since 1972. It's used in both desktop applications (i.e.: Pidgin, the popular free-and-open-source IM client) and in low-level implementations that require interaction with hardware (the Linux kernel, for example). C++ is a bit younger (since 1979), but statistics show that it's more popular than C. Keep in mind that there are noise factors, listed at the bottom of the page I linked to.

 

C# is the baby of the trio, making its first appearance in 2001. However, the platform- and OS-portability factor of the .NET project is making it a very quick up-and-comer. With the mono project implementing the .NET functionality for Unix-based systems, it's truly a programming language that everybody can use. However, C and C++ have considerable momentum behind them (I've heard it said that "they just won't die, no matter how hard we try to kill them"), so don't expect C# to become any real standard, de facto or otherwise.

[Daniel0]

Based on my limited knowledge of C and C++ I'd probably say that if you know one of them, then it shouldn't be too difficult to learn the other rather quickly.

[steelmanronald06]

*nods* I've been planning on picking up python, one more web development language (Ruby and the Rails framework), and a Generation C language.  I just couldn't figure out if I wanted the C, C++, or C#.  Naturally, learning another language gets easier and easier as you program more and more because the logics behind it are the same, you just need to learn the syntax.

 

Granted with C you have to run it through a compiler, so that is going to be a new learning experience.

[bilis_money]

I hear that C is better than C++ or C#.  Since the topic is here, can I get some opinions? Naturally, there are going to be differences, but what is recommended/preferred.

 

C    --> old and procedural

C++ --> OOP

C#  --> OOP the latest.

 

steelman i suggest you should pick C# for dotnet

 

or

 

JAVA

 

 

[jcombs_31]

In college we started with C++ but were really only coding C procedurally.  OOP started with Java and we never really went back to C/C++.  With C/C++ you have to worry about memory, Java was nice with its garbage cleanup and seemed more intuitive to me. 

 

I would first ask yourself, why do you want to learn C/C++?  You are on a web forum asking about application programming. 

[LiamProductions]

So gathering the infomation the extensions are .cpp

 

Where can i get a good C++ Compiler? Thanks again

[trq]

Where can i get a good C++ Compiler?

 

GCC.

[LiamProductions]

I've got Dev C++

 

I went on a tutorial and it said to echo out something, It echoed it out but the problem is the program closed within a second of loading

 

Any ideas why that happened?

And where can i get some good tutorials?

[trq]

Any ideas why that happened?

 

What you'll want to do is open a command line, go to your application, then execute it from there. This way the window will stay open.

[LiamProductions]

Thanks.

 

Does anyone know where i can start C++ like when you start PHP?

[roopurt18]

This is all a matter of opinion, but for me C is simply the best language there is all around, followed closely by C++.

 

There simply isn't any program that couldn't be written in one of those two languages.  They both provide low-level hardware interaction which makes them ideal for embedded and real-time systems as well as games.  They're both compiled so they execute fast.

 

The advantage that C provides over C++ is that it's easier to write a working C compiler than it is a C++ compiler.  So if you're working with state of the art hardware and have to write a compiler for it your job is easier.  C++ has the advantage of OOP (and a few other things) and wrapping things up behind more simple interfaces.

 

I've never programmed in Java but IMO the one thing holding it back is garbage collection.  While garbage collection certainly makes things easier on the programmer, it hurts application performance IMO.  From my experience using Java programs, they typically run great for a while but they longer they're left executing the more sluggish they become.  Garbage collection makes using Java for certain systems impossible because you can't predict when it will kick in.

 

For example:

Astronaut 1: Impact in 15 seconds.

Astronaut 2: Our automatic thrusters should handle this.

Shuttle Computer: Activating thrusters in 10

9

8

7

6

5

4

3

2

Initiating garbage collection, please wait.

Astronaut 1: O.o

Astronaut 2: -.-

 

As far as learning one of the languages goes, you're best off buying a book as it will have examples and instructions geared to your experience.  If that's not an option, you should Google search for specific programming examples as they relate to the language.

 

For example:

c++ loop tutorial

c++ function tutorial

c++ class tutorial

etc.

 

When reading the examples and you don't understand what something is, look it up in Google.

char line[256];

cin.getline(line, 256);

 

Google for 'c++ getline' to learn about it.

[jcombs_31]

How about a trip to the library. There are so many programming books it will make your head spin. 

[roopurt18]

library

They still make those?!

[steelmanronald06]

A)  C++ seems like the way to go simply because of the OOP.  I'm trying to pick up OOP in PHP and the concept is so hard because I've always programmed procedural in PHP. So, perhaps if I start off the OOP way in C, I will be better off.

 

B) Some libraries have very few books, and fewer programming books. I'm from a small town and we had a find jobs online book and an HTML for Dummies book last I checked. WoW! What a major help. On the aff. side, there is a new system called interlibrary loan which almost all libraries have.  You can loan/check out books from other libraries, the only thing is is it is normally a dollar and you have to wait for it to get mailed to the library using US postal.

[steelmanronald06]

Also:

 

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial.html

http://www.glenmccl.com/tutor.htm

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=C%2B%2B+tutorials&btnG=Google+Search

 

 

I know some people have a hard time trying to figure out how google works, so I'm just going to do now what I normally end up doing in the long run. :-D

[LiamProductions]

Hey,

 

Im starting on C++.

 

I've learnt a few things today.

 

Like how to write a string, to include iostream, cin ... and stuff

Its quite fun. I can't wait till i move onto bigger stuff.

[jcombs_31]

Well, there's also amazon.com. I didn't even mean a library actually, I meant a book store...

[trq]

There is a brilliant C book available free online here.

 

There also a decent community I often use here.