[!--quoteo(post=360982:date=Apr 2 2006, 10:43 PM:name=mlange)--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(mlange @ Apr 2 2006, 10:43 PM) [snapback]360982[/snapback][/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--] i have had good luck with [a href=\"http://www.advsofteng.com/index.html\" target=\"_blank\"]Chart Director[/a] but it costs money. [/quote] Thanks for the link to Chart Director. Unfortunately, judging from its chart gallery, it doesn't offer flow charts which is what I need for this project, the ability to draw flow charts on the fly from data within a SQL db. I've used JPGraph quite a lot with great effect, one of the best on the fly charting programs for working with PHP, very flexible and with the right amount of tweaking can produce impressive results. Sadly, it doesn't offer flow charts either, in fact the only thing I've come across that seems able to do this is GraphViz from AT&T, hence the question. Blu