First off to phpfreaks! I am sorry, I am not trying to sound hostile in anyway. I was just being basically a smart ass attitude, and I am a happy, laid back type of person. Second, Thanks for the replies and leads in this matter. Especially to barand. Barand, I some what understand where you are going in detail. If I could aquire your help in more detail through forums please tell me where to write it or if we can chat online. I promise you I can catch on! I just need the leads. The goal of the team pages is to show login successfull Team ownership, Team management, Trophy Case, Current stats that are prudent to the team and players and a few forms like submit starting line up, qb,rb,rb,wr,wr,te,k,d (UT) which are Football NFL positions then display them on another page called starting lineups vs the team you are playing. I can also show you a example of what i want to create is at this page, http://www.webleaguemanager.com/demo/leaguehome.html I want to get as close I can to those pages, especially look at the reports page, and the other pages in that subject, along with a if you click on a owners page you will see what i mean, actually manage team page. I also want to apply a fourm as well. I only want the whole ball of wax!!! :-) looking forward to speaking with you again. thanks, Karl