Hey, I have been looking EVERYWHERE for a solution and there seems to be none just quite yet. I've searched google and all sorts of help forums... and still zip, nothing. What I want to do is vertically-align the text in this example: http://www.tri-m.com/test.html in the middle of the white space. The problem though is that there is an unknown height of the whitespace because I want it to be that no matter what size you size the window, the content will always be vertically aligned... so I'm pretty stuck on how to do this. I'm needing the solution for this desperatly and I have been searching and trying everything for weeks. If anyone could help that would be VERY VERY apperciated. Thank you sooo much to everyone that tries this out. Once again here is the Example: http://www.tri-m.com/test.html Here is my code: [code] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <title>Tri-M Systems INC.</title> <style type="text/css"> * { margin:0; padding:0; } html, body { height:100%; } body { color:#000; } #container-page { background:#fff; width:100%; min-height:100%; /* For Modern Browsers */ height:auto !important; /* For Modern Browsers */ height:100%; /* For IE */ position:relative; text-align:left; margin:0 auto; } #container-head { background:#fff; } #header { background-color:#0000FF; min-width:830px; width:expression(document.body.clientWidth < 832 ? "830px" : "auto" ); height:81px; position:relative; } #container-content { min-width:830px; width:expression(document.body.clientWidth < 832 ? "830px" : "auto" ); text-align:center; position:relative; padding: 0 0 162px 0; } #container-content:after { height:0; clear:both; display:block; content:"."; visibility:hidden; } #content-sec ul,#content-sec ul li { list-style: none none; } #container-foot { background-color:#ff0000; width:100%; min-width:830px; width:expression(document.body.clientWidth < 832 ? "830px" : "auto" ); height:162px; position:absolute; bottom:0 !important; bottom:-1px; /* For Certain IE widths */ } #foot { height:162px; } </style> </head> <body> <div id="container-page"> <div id="container-head"> <div id="header"> </div><!-- END "header" --> </div><!-- END "container-head" --> <div id="container-content"> <center> <div id="box">VERTICAL ALIGN THIS IN WHITE SPACE</div> <!-- END "box" --> </center> </div><!-- END "container-content" --> <div id="container-foot"> <div id="foot"> </div><!-- END "foot" --> </div><!-- END "container-foot" --> </div><!-- END "container-page" --> </body> </html> [/code] - Jacenta :'(