Ok, but lets say my include file is my layout (so I can just change this one file to change every page) - I'm going to want to put it first in my php file, thus the: [code]<?php include("include.inc.php");[/code] at the very start of code. What I need to know is how to insert text or other things in the middle of this include.inc.php file. ------------- So an example (this is my include.php file) <?php Echo "$SHTM<table border=1> <tr> <td>Cell 1</td> <td>Cell 2</td> </tr> </table> $EHTML"; ?> My index page needs a welcome message and my layout is just a normal two cell table. I want to insert the word hello into the second cell by changing the /index.php file while leaving the include.inc.php file alone. And then another page (lets say index2.php needs to say another message in the cell 2, but only by changing the index2.php. index.php file: <?PHP include("include.inc.php"); ?> ??? ??? ??? (PS sorry I'm very noob at PHP and I hope this makes sense.)