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Mardoxx

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It's all well and good knowing how to use Perl, Python, PHP with MySQL etc etc...

But it's useless if one wants to create a nice looking, well, produced, clean coded website!

 

I had a go at designing a website... It looked nice, but when I came to coding it - it was awful :(

 

Mine used to consist of... well basically

<img src=""/> a couple of <table>s and some text... *is sick*

 

I view the source of most websites and they're all <div id=""> and look really nice and clean

 

Can anyone give me some titles of some good books/websites with nice examples on how to design websites PROPERLY using HTML+CSS....

 

Thanks :D

 

 

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I would suggest searching for some design forums - this site is great for programming, there are some pretty amazingly skilled coders on here. But if you want to talk design, well I would say that phpfreaks is not in the top ten places you should be looking!

 

The site the last poster linked to is very good for beginning CSS techniques. But you will want to get some books or something for more intensive stuff. Do a bunch of tutorials on the net. Follow design forums to see what questions etc. people come up with.

 

As a side note, I strongly commend you for wanting to do this - it seems to be a step that so many coders skip out. They learn the php, but don't take the time to learn html/css. This is like learning to bake, without knowing what a cake is supposed to look like. You may be able to put together a really good cake recipe that tastes great, but looks like crap and doesn't appeal to anyone. If you even make it right in the first place - many coders cannot output valid code to save their lives. So good luck with this!

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I learned a lot by buying a few site templates that I really liked from sites like templatemonster.com and 4templates.com... then I built those out, customizing everything along the way.

 

I learn best by seeing how it's done, then figuring out *why* it works... if this style of learning works for you, then you might benefit from "reverse engineering" a few of these templates, too... most make heavy use of css and are well organized.

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