Leo75 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Hi there. I am trying to create my own facebook, very basic version. So i was wondering how much of PHP i am gonna need and if i will need anyother programing language. Anyone? Cheers. Leo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldude832 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 If you don't know any php then don't do it, learn php first then attempt your life programing goal, it will be to frustarting if you don't understand the langauge and just try to use it first. The main things you need to know are Post/Get Pagination MySQL Strings Arrays Includes Proper Query Structure Debugging and more I can't think of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocopi Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 You shouldn't need to much coding level You will need PHP,SQL, HTML, CSS and possibly javascript Most of the basic functions using functions storing/extracting data from database efficiently for, foreach, while loops Thats all i can think of for now ~ Chocopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibberous Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Ever read Harry Potter? There is a part where he looks in a magic mirror and is given a stone. He got the stone because he was the only one who wanted to have the stone for the sake of having it, not for what it could do for him. If you really want to be able to program facebook, you need to want to learn programing for the sake of learning it. If you don't want to learn programing, and you just want to get a site up, then don't even try to write it yourself. Go get a 3rd party script you can just setup, or if you want a little more control, go get a CMS like Joomla, and tweak it until it works like facebook. Just my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo75 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 Hi there! Thanks everyone for the replies. I forgot to say that i do have a programing background, actually on C++. I am thinking to use flash (so it can be a little graphical- almost childish -, php and html). From what i saw, looks like, hopefully, is not gonna be that bad. What about time? Any idea? 4 months on hard working? Cheers agian Thanks. Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocopi Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 4 Months would probably get you a working version probably with many bugs, especially when you add in the complexness of flash integration. So in the 4 months you could get a good beta version. ~ Chocopi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo75 Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 Thanks, again, for ur reply. Got a little worried due to ur coment about the "complexness of flash integration". Is there something between flash and PHP that i should know before i start this "time-wasting-endeavour" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 its nto relaly flash into php... FLASH => HTML HTML <= PHP Html comes from php, flash comes from html... It wouldn't be too hard. Just use your flash buttons to link to the page ?action=bla&page=bla&s=sago4wqnjtgklwjyq3y where s= use the session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldude832 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 a Bridge between PHP and Flash can be made using a different part of the HTTP portion of the Application layer in OSI. Flash => Client Input => Post/Get => Php => Database => Php => http => Back to client(flash). This chain is really a circle and is how many dynamic flash applets are used injunction with php/mysql Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbo Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Before you even worry about coding you need to put together a good plan. I usually start with a "brain dump" of all my thoughts and features I'd like to have. I then widdle it down to essential features for an initial release. You eventually need to derive a set of defined requirements for the first release. If you can do some forward thinking at the database level it might help downstream. After you've done that think through all the pages you're going to need to make that happen. Leave nothing out, it's kind of a sitemap of sorts. After you've done this create a data model of all the supporting data you will need to accommodate the requirements sitemap you've put together. After you've got this all in place you're at a decent place to start worrying about the coding. Build out or adopt any core functionality you need, then build out the interfaces. Start hooking up the backend, etc. That'd be my approach. If you don't believe me pick up a copy of Rapid Development by Steve McConnell. It really harps on the importance of a good plan and design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpireLink Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Looks a nice adea to have a Socity Site like facebook, For me when i want to programe a site, I think for the services I am offering in that site, and i make a text filewith all of the field names that i am going to use for each section, its good for me as a referance, than i move on to the folders i create - admin (for admin section) - includ (for classes and config) tnen i make files with the name of each service like if i am offering news/events service the files structure will be like this - admin -- news -- events -include -- config -- dbclass and the user interface will be - index - news - events - show (to show the record details) after all i build the DataBase , and start programing from the admin moving to the user interface while testeing every function, and finaly work on the design and how to show the data to users. i know it might be a long way, but with this i am decreasing the coding time beacuse im am testing every single pice of record before finaly using it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo75 Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 I must say that i am very thankfull to all of you for ur replies. I am getting lots of important info about how to start this crazy idea. Now, one last thing... What about the server? We (the group that i belong) of buying a server and run it from home. How big (RAM, space, processor) must it be? I saw that facebook alows people to upload their pics and some videos also. So i guess the facebook server must be quite big... Thanks.. Leo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpireLink Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I must say that i am very thankfull to all of you for ur replies. I am getting lots of important info about how to start this crazy idea. Now, one last thing... What about the server? We (the group that i belong) of buying a server and run it from home. How big (RAM, space, processor) must it be? I saw that facebook alows people to upload their pics and some videos also. So i guess the facebook server must be quite big... Thanks.. Leo. Dont start with all of facebook services, do it one by one, at the moment am working on a city gude website, but am not offering "User Accounts" and "User Groups" not even "Comments" and "Rates" I will firest start my site as VERSION 1.0 and let the users test it with me and get back by contacting me telling me what does they think, and in case there is any errors.. after that I will start adding the other services one by one and letting the users test it with me .. its good to do like that because you will get more feedbacks from many users around the world .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~n[EO]n~ Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Hi there. I am trying to create my own facebook, very basic version. So i was wondering how much of PHP i am gonna need and if i will need anyother programing language. Anyone? Cheers. Leo. Best of Luck !!! After you succeed in making this site, then make it Open Source so everyone can use it.. BTW: Have you started ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymc Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 A huge site will need a cluster of servers maybe 2 servers to handle database requests 1 server to handle file serves like images and text, php processing maybe another one to host large files, videoes, uploads etc Dont quote me on this but Im sure myspace have around 400 servers 300unix and 100 windows 178 million users, what do you expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irksome Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I must say that i am very thankfull to all of you for ur replies. I am getting lots of important info about how to start this crazy idea. Now, one last thing... What about the server? We (the group that i belong) of buying a server and run it from home. How big (RAM, space, processor) must it be? I saw that facebook alows people to upload their pics and some videos also. So i guess the facebook server must be quite big... Thanks.. Leo. Facebook is hosted in a data centre, which is a building full of rack servers. They are probably running on about 350 servers by now. I would suggest just buying some decent hosting. The cost of the hosting will be less than the cost of running your own server, with electricity bills etc. Ask your members to donate to the costs of running the site, or create premium membership that they need to pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbo Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I'd just develop the application in such a way that you don't lock yourself down to hardware at day 1. A good application should be able to move to different environments. Ultimately, yes you will need multiple servers.... I'd question the 350 - 400, but that's okay. The initial release certainly doesn't need a bunch of powerhouse servers. Just develop with growth in mind and come up with a contingency plan for how you might accommodate this downstream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 myspace had 461 servers last time the informaiton was released (2 months ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo75 Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 I must say i am impressed with the help of this forum... thanks u all for ur posts. One last thing... Any suggested, tutorials, readings that i must take prior my endeavour? I know, so far, that i am going to need, PHP, HTML and FLASH... what else? FREE tutorials or readings... no money to buy books, for now... Thanks again. Cheers. Leo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocobueno1388 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 http://tizag.com has some great tutorials on probably everything you will need. Don't forget you will need MySQL as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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