HI In mysql admin I can see the root user but screen is greyed out, then when I add a localhost below it is ok, a new user seems to be ok, but does not work connection I can grant permissions, and it all seems ok, but the root user on it is own does not have any abilities, when I try to install on the local host osc it has an error consider upgrading to mysql client... I have uninstalled - but seems to retain some info ..how dow you clear that out, ?? I accidently removed grants in phpmyadmin for the root and just wont bring it back to it as it ws in the beginning... any ideas....thanks