[quote author=obsidian link=topic=87665.msg352331#msg352331 date=1141691454] try something like this: [code] <?php include ('top.php'); // first, set a default to drop to if there isn't one in the URL $page = isset($_GET['page']) ? $_GET['page'] : 'news'; include ("{$page}.php"); include ('bot.php'); ?> [/code] basically, you've got to remember that whatever page you're trying to include is also in the same directory, but otherwise, you should be golden. [/quote] I tried using this, and it didn't work. I am wondering why. Also, how do you go about putting a default and be able to change what $page is?