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The one reply to your thread was someone posting links to more free 'comment' scripts. They left no feedback. Right. Well, they left it on my comment system. And how long was it up for, like less than a night? Couldn't you have moved it to Freelance (seeing as it might be suitable for that board)?

I never wanted to leave (it is not my desire), I am more of being forced to. The idea of posting this was to get a better impression of the community, perhaps its members would be worth putting up with the administrators / moderators. Most of what I've seen so far has only been the administrators / moderators, and they are very hostile (typical). It will likely never say I'm offline until I actually logout, which will probably never happen because my browser never expires cookies, and I have a script running to check for replies and such, until I decide if it's worth staying or not. And it wasn't solicitation the first time.

C'mon. 'PHP Coding Help' is for help with specific issues. You post your problematic code, and people help you with it.If you have so much code you need help with that you need to provide a link, you need to break your problem into smaller parts and ask for help with those parts. You where blatantly asking people to join your project. I have nothing against advocating open software. I have used and developed it almost exclusively for the last 6 years or so. Still, there are times and places, a 'PHP Coding Help' board is not one of them. As has been said all along, if you where to contribute to our community you might get some slack cut. But starting your very first post with "I am currently developing a Free Software comment system (AGPL) in PHP, and I would love to have help if anyone is willing or interested."..... is blatant spam. Open software or whatever, I don't see a difference. I was expecting it to go like this: Me: I'll explain, in detail, what it is I'm doing. People: This is pretty cool. What's broken? Me: This part <code here> People: I can fix that! / WTF?! And it was going this way for the first -- what -- 10 minutes? One person replied -- I can't even remember what they said, you could have closed it instead of deleting it -- they visited the site, left a comment testing it out. Someone was interested in helping me get it to work, and I'm sure others might as well. And you want to deny them that freedom? It's exercise, it experience, it's fun, it's useful. It's what PHP is, at this point I am more of criticizing your forum for not actually fully embracing what PHP is all about. People on Ident.ca have help me more than this forum. No one else but you administrators / moderators have this view point of my work.

This doesn't make any sense, as I needed help. If a doctor advertised himself as being a helpful doctor that you could come to if you needed help (just get yet another online account), then I would expect him to talk with me about Viagra instead of saying "Ewww!" then punching me in the face and running away with my chart. The people filling my inbox with Viagra ads need help finding people to fill their bank accounts. You need help finding people to participate in the development of a product, which you are creating for political reasons. The gain may be different, but that doesn't change the fact that it is still unsolicited advertisements. Thank you for removing me from a group I did not rightfully earn (I might consider myself quite PHP educated, but I have not been perceived as such by the members of this forum), but I do not appreciate people messing with my account as a joke while I am away, especially one that has to do with my intellectual stature (it's your forum you can do what you want, but makes me uninterested). That is exactly the point I was making. You come to this community with an overinflated sense of entitlement leading you to believe it's perfectly fine advertising your projects here. Had you been a longstanding contributor to this community, you have [may] have been given some slack, but why should we do that to someone who has contributed nothing? The fact that we don't have a "project announcement" board doesn't mean you can just post it elsewhere against the rules. To my knowledge, you didn't ask any member of staff if you could post this advertisement, nor did you request the creation of any such board. Please don't call my Free Software project a product, it is a contribution to society (one you are unwilling to except), a work, not a product. Need I give you the definition for product? PHP is licensed under the PHP License for political reasons. My post was asking for help, so it belongs in the board for asking for help (unless you have retarded definitions for your boards). And I don't think my post implied my "entitlement" to people's labor (no one is entitled to that). I thought with people here learning PHP, some of them would have websites, thus some of them would like to have comments on there websites, thus would help me with my problems I am having develop it. As I said before, my post explained that it was a comment system, it had a link to it, another to its source code, and I asked if anyone was interested in helping me solve some of the problems I was having develop it. I wasn't even given enough time to explain what I was having trouble with. I intended to do that if there was any interest, and if people on the forum seemed at all knowledgeable enough to help.

Simply by definition (a self-employed person, esp. a writer or artist, who is not employed continuously but hired to do specific assignments) it does not. And I don't know how the forum could possibly go this long without a place to collaborate on projects, as many other forums do. Thank you for removing me from a group I did not rightfully earn (I might consider myself quite PHP educated, but I have not been perceived as such by the members of this forum), but I do not appreciate people messing with my account as a joke while I am away, especially one that has to do with my intellectual stature (it's your forum you can do what you want, but makes me uninterested).

This doesn't make any sense, as I needed help. If a doctor advertised himself as being a helpful doctor that you could come to if you needed help (just get yet another online account), then I would expect him to talk with me about Viagra instead of saying "Ewww!" then punching me in the face and running away with my chart.

Q.Q @OP: Did you follow the rules? Typically a post like that would go in the freelancing section Nope. Administrator "thorpe" told me: "The PHP Coding Help board is not the place to announce projects. We in fact don't have a form for such announcements." If this is a wrongful statement, then that is a different issue.

Nope. Administrator "thorpe" told me: "The PHP Coding Help board is not the place to announce projects. We in fact don't have a form for such announcements." If this is a wrongful statement, then that is a different issue. It's common for people that already have a project to need help. My post explained that it was a comment system, it had a link to it, another to its source code, and I asked if anyone was interested in helping me solve some of the problems I was having develop it. I wasn't even given enough time to explain what I was having trouble with. I intended to do that if there was any interest, and if people on the forum seemed at all knowledgeable enough to help. That statement doesn't make any sense, as I never said anything about my social behavior.

I'm not going to participate in this forum anymore. PHPFreaks' moderators don't allow people (me) to announce and ask for cooperation on PHP projects. And I don't know why, all of the people on this forum are learning PHP, and the moderators want to deny cooperation and collaboration with that knowledge? Doesn't make any sense. Goodbye.

No. I'm not going to participate in this forum anymore. PHPFreaks' moderators don't allow people (me) to announce and ask for cooperation on PHP projects. And I don't know why, all of the people on this forum are learning PHP and the moderators want to deny cooperation and collaboration with that knowledge? Doesn't make any sense.

I am Jacob Barkdull. I consider myself a Free Software advocate. I have spent the last few years becoming familiar with Unix, GNU, and Linux. The operating system I use is Debian GNU+Linux-libre, simply because it liberates my computer usage. I do not use proprietary software (software licensed with the sole purpose of restricting the users' computing.) I am an Internet centric developer -- I shouldn't say that, internet languages are just what I prefer -- my first actual usage of Free Software was at the age of 16 when I received an old web server from my father (I held an interest in Free Software since I got my first computer). The web server was an old single-core Intel 1800Hz running Fedora 6 with KDE 3.x. My first task was to install Fedora 9 on the system, I did so without too much effort -- the machine just ran in my bedroom and I occasionally checked in on the installation. A web server being my first introduction to the operating system, I became more interested in learning how the web technologies I used every day worked. Naturally, I learned HTML, SHTML, CSS, JavaScript, and -- my favorite -- PHP. It was only later that I started learning C / C++, Python, Perl, and the others. I've always been a political person (since adulthood), so as with everything else in life, I found software to have political and ethical issues, and I became interested in the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) -- which is a Free Software license originally written by Richard Stallman in 1989 for the GNU Project, and now authored by the Free Software Foundation. Richard Stallman's intentions with the GNU GPL was to eliminate the political and ethical issues in software, and liberate the user of the software. I believe it is important to expose these political, social, and ethical issues with proprietary software, and advocate the usage of Free Software, while advocating against proprietary software usage in education, business, government, and personal computing. I believe that, in this day and age -- with millions or even billions of people using software everyday, for most of the day -- that software users online are a community, much like our neighborhood communities, but this is only true when these users cooperate, collaborate, and communicate. Needless to say, I find Free Software communities are much more pleasant than proprietary software pseudo-communities (I say pseudo because while the users may cooperate to the most of their extent, the developers of the software do not), because in Free Software communities the users contribute, the developers contribute, and the people openly cooperate and discuss opinions, good or bad. I use Free Software because I like supporting such social freedom and cooperation. It is important that we all have respect for our computing freedom, especially in this age of increasing dependence on technology. Free Software encourages software development by everyone who is able. Under the GNU GPL a program's source code must be available to the user of the licensed software, and the user must be free to use the software, study and change the software, give away or sell copies of the software, and give away or sell a changed version of the software. I do not know everything about Free Software, but I believe my views might change the way many people view these issues. I have written many misconceived, and utterly wrong articles in the past, during my learning of the operating system. And I apologize for them. They are on "blog" websites, and not on this website, TildeHash.com, but you may be able to find them simply by browsing this site. My criticizing of anything will be very rare. I feel that criticism is very useful, but that it's also better not to cause the "problem" that ultimately receives criticism. And because my criticism often matches the criticism already voiced by somebody else, it's better that I be involved in those discussions -- so long as the discussion is constructive -- rather than having the same discussion here. So I ask for your criticism as long as it's constructive. I invite you to contact me for whatever you may wish to ask me. Straight from my site http://www.tildehash.com/?page=author I apologize for being impersonal.