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GENERAL RULES AND GUIDELINES FOR POSTING This forum is not meant to be a formal freelance service system. It is available for those who wish to seek out services or work from other people, as a courtesy to the members of the phpfreaks community. phpfreaks.com does not specialize in freelance services. This forum is an informal mechanism, as a courtesy to the community. We have no formal mechanism in place (like escrow) to guarantee payment, refund, work done, etc... phpfreaks.com shall not be held responsible for any losses you incur. we have never and continue to not act as any kind of mediator or verification/compensation source for people/organizations who use those forums. We will not be held responsible/liable for any damages, loss, etc. that occur from use of those forums. If you hire someone and they rip you off, don't come crying to us. If someone hires you and they rip you off, don't come crying to us. Those forums are a convenience. If you want something more official that offers guarantees, go to a real freelance site! If you have any questions regarding the freelance forum, feel free to ask them here. RULES: WHERE TO POST:If you want to offer your services, post in the Service Offerings sub-forum.If you want to offer a job or position of employment, post in the Job Offerings sub-forum. People looking for work: DO NOT post your 'resume' in job posting threads. You must directly contact the person you wish to reply to. The only reason replies are allowed is to ask for clarification/details about the job. Failure to adhere to this rule will result in all kinds of things, like you getting banned, or us disallowing replies. People offering work: DO NOT make more than one thread for a specific job. You may make a new thread if it's a different job, but if you are just wanting to tweak the job specifications, edit/reply to your original post. GUIDELINES:When posting in the freelancing forum it's important that you provide a way for users to contact you. They will not be able to reply to your topics so they need a way to contact you privately, and separately from the PHP Freaks website. This can be using emails or any type of instant messaging service (MSN, Gtalk, AIM, Jabber, etc.) or however you see fit.Unless you're an experienced coder and are looking for an extra set of hands, don't assume the job you want done is something "quick" or "easy" or "shouldn't take too long" etc... maybe it is, maybe it isn't. That's like going to a mechanic and telling him you expect him to be done in 2 hours when you have no idea how to fix a car. The best way to get a feel for how long something should take, is to get multiple quotes. Don't expect to get a response from coders if you're offering like $20 for someone to build you xyz site. Do some research and find out what the going rate for sites, particular aspects of sites, scripts, hourly rates, etc.. whatever fits your needs. You may indeed find people willing to do something super cheap, but as with everything else in life, you get what you pay for. The moral of the story is this: Just because one person quotes $20 to build xyz.com from the ground up, or charges $2.15/hr, doesn't mean everybody else is way overcharging. You get what you pay for. Don't expect feedback from posting "You'll get x% of profits once income starts pouring in" deals. Use some common sense: if the coder has to wait until you start making money off his work, what does he need you for? You get what you pay for. Don't expect feedback from posting jobs as 'non-paid' or 'for free'. Would you expect someone to build you a house or fix your car for free? You might get lucky and find some altruistic coder, but more than likely, you won't. You get what you pay for. Even if you do get responses from posts like the above ones mentioned, more than likely the quality is going to be cheap. Cheap as in not a good deal, messy and poor coding, lack of communication, shady dealings, etc.. You get what you pay for. Make sure you know what you want, before looking for someone. Don't assume any part of your project or need, no matter how big or small, goes without saying. Because it doesn't. And I guarantee you you'll end up fighting with the coder about it.Though details vary from coder to coder, yes, it is normal to have to pay some kind of % up front for work you want done. It may sometimes be hard, but it is possible to recover or minimize monetary losses, should a deal go awry. It is not possible to recover work done. That is why the burden of payment is on the client. There are lots of sites/systems you can go through to protect yourself from potential fallouts. One thing you can do is search through the user's posts here. Just click on their name and at the bottom of their profile click the "show last posts of this person" link. This can be a useful research tool for getting a feel for the person's skill level. For instance, if you see their post claiming to have 10 years of php experience doing everything under the sun, but check their post history and see that they recently asked a bunch of really simple questions, chances are they are lying about their skills. Edit history: June 8 2017: Job postings need to include a way for users to contact the poster that does not involve the PHP Freaks forums: replies are discouraged and private messages are only enabled for established users.