silverglade Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 hi, i have a book on php (only 400 pages) and i dont think it will teach me enough to get i job. i was wondering if i read the php tutorial at w3schools.com if that will teach me the material i need to get a job as a php programmer. if anyone can let me know what i need to study to get a job, please let me know. it seems that php is a large subject that may not be covered in one place, but if its not , i wont know where to go to learn all i can to get a job. any advice or resources greatly appreciated. thank you. derek Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaface Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 You need to d a lot more than reading a website. You need hands on experience, creating dynamic and complex websites from scratch and from memory. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
webref.eu Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I would probably focus on learning how to insert data into MySQL first, as there's a lot you can do with this. Work out how to do the so-called CRUD operations, CREATE, READ, UPDATE, DELETE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Create,_read,_update_and_delete If you then look at some of the sites where you can hire programmers, you'll get an idea of what's often requested in terms of development. There's a section on these forums here: http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php/board,8.0.html and you can find links to some more of these sites here: http://www.webref.eu/outsourcing-development.php Finally, joining some open source php projects such as phpbb might help you improve your coding skills. Good luck. Rgds Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonInflux Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I've found the best way of learning is to make something. I started out by building a forum. I finished the forum, then discovered the gallery2 project and learned a bit more about OOP. I then went back to my forum, and converted it to OOP. I looked at Joomla! and their coding technique. I went back to my forum and converted it to this way. After a while, I found a healthy medium, and formed my own sort of coding guidelines. Once you know how you code, and how, theoretically, to code everything you can think of (And whether it's possible or not), then you're good to go for jobs! ---------------- Now playing: Linkin Park - 1stp Klosr (The Humble Brothers ft. Jonathan Davis) via FoxyTunes Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverglade Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 i was wondering where i can learn the complete language of php so i can do what you guys are talking about. could this be at w3schools or books? i need to learn the language before i go any further. thanks. derek Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonInflux Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Use PHPFreaks! It was the best thing I ever discovered Pick something to build Ask us what you'll need to do it. We'll give you a list of functions. Go away, read into the functions, see if you can build it If you get stuck, you know where we'll be I can happily say 99% of my PHP knowledge is from using phpFreaks (and not just for my questions!) ---------------- Now playing: Linkin Park - Krwlng (Mike Shinoda ft. Aaron Lewis) via FoxyTunes Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
webref.eu Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Practice makes perfect. There is a wealth of php tutorial information online, start with a very basic script and take it from there. I find Googling better than books, but sure, books help - check Amazon and I'm sure you'll find some interesting reading material. I wouldn't try to have learnt everything before you get a job. Just get some basic coding abilities and then see if you can get a junior position. Rgds Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverglade Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 thanks i will do what you guys said to develop sites. but i was wondering where i can learn the full php language. whether by books or the w3schools website. i have to do that before i do projects. sorry if im repetitive. but i need to learn the full php language i think before i can develop that kind of stuff. any sites or books to learn php fully id greatly appreciate. i will look into amazon.com to find thicker php books that cover the language more, but any advice you have would be great. sincerely, derek Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonInflux Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Very few people know every single function or operation you can use in PHP. That's why the manual is invaluable ---------------- Now playing: Linkin Park & Jay-Z - Numb/Encore via FoxyTunes Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverglade Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 thank you. i will check out the manual as i learn. is the manual only online on the php site or is it in a book? i like books for some reason i dont know. but is the manual in a book? i just checked amazon, is this volume 2 version a book copy of the online php manual at php.net? http://www.amazon.com/PHP-Manual-2-php/dp/0595132286/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217698591&sr=1-4 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverglade Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 crap volume 1 is not in stock, oh well. i guess i can download the online version and print it into a book. thanks. derek Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/117848-solved-learning-php-and-getting-a-job/#findComment-606180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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