PHP application structure

[sasori]

Hello,

 

I built a system using a framework called Yii, now I was asked to re-write everything from scratch without a framework. I don't know how to do a system architecture, I'm used to do coding rightaway controllers,models with the help of an existing php framework w/o minding system design/folder structures., can you guys give me some tips how to do such? or a templating engine such as smarty can do the job for me ?

 

Thanks in advance.

[btherl]

Why were you asked to re-write it without a framework?  I would just go ahead and copy the framework's structure.  Smarty is just a templating engine, not a framework or a structure, although it can form part of one.

 

Honestly the best approach is to find a framework you like and use that, but if you were specifically asked not to use an existing framework, then I would instead find a framework you like and copy how it works.

 

The structure we use is more or less MVC, with a small controller sending requests off to various files that implement a particular page, and they send requests off to classes that do most of the work.  Those pages then return an array to smarty which renders the template.

[sasori]

because a 3rd party module made up of spaghetti and some oop coding style will be integrated in the system and i think it'll cause a huge impact in most of my code or if not, i will have to tweak the third party stuff to fin in the framework that i use..that's why they asked me to re-write everything without a framework..they worry about having a limitation of hiring someone who doesn't know the framework that i use..

[xyph]

Learning a framework is easier than sifting through someone else's code :/

 

Do they plan to hire someone capable of building a framework but can't use one?!

[sasori]

Learning a framework is easier than sifting through someone else's code :/

 

Do they plan to hire someone capable of building a framework but can't use one?!

 

I already explained that the other devs they have are cool and better than me and they can learn the framework that I use in a short period of time..

but , you know, am not the boss so I lost the debate battle

[xyph]

My favourite phrase:

 

You hired me to do this, so let me do it the right way

 

 

[btherl]

Fair enough.. if your boss asks you to re-invent the wheel then you have to re-invent the wheel.  And the best way is to look at an existing wheel and more or less copy it.  Googling "PHP MVC tutorial" turns up quite a number of tutorials, so that's another possible angle to start with.

 

I'm a bit reluctant to give advice at this stage - I would find it much easier if you started writing the framework and posted back here when you got stuck.

 

One tip - if you're going to be integrating with 3rd party spaghetti code, I would seriously consider using namespaces to insulate your code from the spaghetti.  Unless the spaghetti happens to have clearly defined boundaries in how it deals with the global namespace.

[sasori]

Fair enough.. if your boss asks you to re-invent the wheel then you have to re-invent the wheel.  And the best way is to look at an existing wheel and more or less copy it.  Googling "PHP MVC tutorial" turns up quite a number of tutorials, so that's another possible angle to start with.

 

I'm a bit reluctant to give advice at this stage - I would find it much easier if you started writing the framework and posted back here when you got stuck.

 

One tip - if you're going to be integrating with 3rd party spaghetti code, I would seriously consider using namespaces to insulate your code from the spaghetti.  Unless the spaghetti happens to have clearly defined boundaries in how it deals with the global namespace.

 

I see, php5.3 namespaces..thanks for the extra tips