xploita Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 well..planning to start a new commercial project in php5..for me to use ajax i'll be using something like SAJAX or anotherfor me to be MVC compliant i'll be using a template enginefor me to secure the application i'll sanitize it using some advanced classes(#include)well..i still didn't finish the planning and i came up with the sad fact that i'm building a Framework from scratch by gathering all those calsses and apps together.am i correc Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/35801-does-it-all-end-in-another-framework/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Almost.A framework is not an application, it is the building blocks of an application.For example, all of your applications may have a FrontController (and usually PageControllers associated with it) Therefore, your framework should have these.You applications may all connect to a database at some point, therefore your framework should have a datasource layer.etc.. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/35801-does-it-all-end-in-another-framework/#findComment-169796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xploita Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 well..if it's almost as i said,then why do i re-invent the wheel!i mean..shouldn't we all fetch a well-known php framework to develop our application ? Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/35801-does-it-all-end-in-another-framework/#findComment-169857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 yes and no. if everybody had that opinion, then there'd only be one framework per language that everybody used, because they didnt want to rewrite a new one.but if you're looking at getting the job done quickly, then maybe a popular framework such as Cake will help you on your way. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/35801-does-it-all-end-in-another-framework/#findComment-169872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Creating your own framework has many merits. Providing you do it "right" of course. :)It's yours - so it's made for [b]you[/b] being the main merit.It is also fantastic for learning. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/35801-does-it-all-end-in-another-framework/#findComment-169882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xploita Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 [quote author=Jenk link=topic=124129.msg514115#msg514115 date=1169831762]Creating your own framework has many merits. Providing you do it "right" of course. :)It's yours - so it's made for [b]you[/b] being the main merit.It is also fantastic for learning. [/quote]this is true,it's fantastic for learningbut...for a complete/tested/supported/active frameworks out there like symfony,cake or even the Zend one,sure it'd be better than a heterogeneous framework that u create urself !don't get me wrong though,i started this thread cause it's driving me crazy.i was completly convinced by developing my application away from a framework so that i have complete control over my application.but in the end i found myself building a whole new framework from different places. :-\ Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/35801-does-it-all-end-in-another-framework/#findComment-169886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenk Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Swings and round-a-bouts.In the time it takes you to learn Zend/Symfony/CakePHP, you could be half way to making a framework that suits your needs perfectly, rather than adapting your needs and style to any 3rd party framework. :) Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/35801-does-it-all-end-in-another-framework/#findComment-170268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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