does it all end in another framework !

[xploita]

well..planning to start a new commercial project in php5..

for me to use ajax i'll be using something like SAJAX or another
for me to be MVC compliant i'll be using a template engine
for me to secure the application i'll sanitize it using some advanced classes(#include)

well..i still didn't finish the planning and i came up with the sad fact that i'm building a Framework from scratch by gathering all those calsses and apps together.

am i correc

[Jenk]

Almost.

A framework is not an application, it is the building blocks of an application.

For example, all of your applications may have a FrontController (and usually PageControllers associated with it)

Therefore, your framework should have these.

You applications may all connect to a database at some point, therefore your framework should have a datasource layer.

etc..

[xploita]

well..if it's almost as i said,then why do i re-invent the wheel!
i mean..shouldn't we all fetch a well-known php framework to develop our application ?

[redbullmarky]

yes and no. if everybody had that opinion, then there'd only be one framework per language that everybody used, because they didnt want to rewrite a new one.
but if you're looking at getting the job done quickly, then maybe a popular framework such as Cake will help you on your way.

[Jenk]

Creating your own framework has many merits. Providing you do it "right" of course. :)

It's yours - so it's made for [b]you[/b] being the main merit.

It is also fantastic for learning.

[xploita]

[quote author=Jenk link=topic=124129.msg514115#msg514115 date=1169831762]
Creating your own framework has many merits. Providing you do it "right" of course. :)

It's yours - so it's made for [b]you[/b] being the main merit.

It is also fantastic for learning.
[/quote]
this is true,it's fantastic for learning
but...for a complete/tested/supported/active frameworks out there like symfony,cake or even the Zend one,sure it'd be better than a heterogeneous framework that u create urself !

don't get me wrong though,i started this thread cause it's driving me crazy.i was completly convinced by developing my application away from a framework so that i have complete control over my application.but in the end i found myself building a whole new framework from different places.  :-\

[Jenk]

Swings and round-a-bouts.

In the time it takes you to learn Zend/Symfony/CakePHP, you could be half way to making a framework that suits your needs perfectly, rather than adapting your needs and style to any 3rd party framework. :)