SYMFONY - thoughts, concerns, ideas?

[linuxdream]

At my job, we have used the Symfony framework to build a (more like 3) rather LARGE apps. We had to basically build massive extensions to the code such that it's almost a whole new framework. Anywho, I was just wondering what you all though of it as far as usability, practicality, comparison to other dev frameworks out there...

As for me, I think it's just so so. I think YAML was a bad choice for config files and the propel DB layer is too restrictive with PK's and such. We had to revert back to manual SQL too many times to count. Though I do very much like the general organization and file structure of everything. Easy to know exactly where you need to go to fix something.

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[Jenk]

I've heard pretty much only good things about it. :)

Perhaps your implementation is off, if you are having to revert to manual SQL?

[linuxdream]

Well, we use a lot of joins across multiple tables and there isn't an easy way through Propel to join tables with no PK so manual SQL is the easiest way to go. A lot of what we do is beyond me but all of our senior devs say that there is no way to do what we need through Propel. So unfortunately, we've had to break out of the framework more time then we would have liked.

[Jenk]

Fair enough. I don't think there is anyway of using any query builder, for every possible scenario as it happens. I seem to remember seeing blogs about difficulties with complex joins on PDO, too.