DarkWater Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 that a stupid comment the reasson the class was put together was for all programmers to use, to learn what every function does is to read it your self as your learning the class... not everyone can just read code and program it my god man give us some help lol I sincerely hope that you're kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarebit Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i prefer c to c++, so i'd avoid classes anyway... lol this threads better than the science program on tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldude832 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i'd try to use IMAP, because POP3 is pants, you don't really have control on what happens on the server end. Generally when you dl a msg using POP3, it'll get deleted from the server, but depending, it might not! obviously you haven't read IMAP enough because it has settings for read only or not and other logins. Further more if you are to draw a dependency sort of thing most things are IMAP while not all are POP3 good example until recently is AOL mail which never had POP3 support until of late. I too use classes to manage my programmer however I wrote all my own classes and don't try to explain them to others. I don't see OOP as this master porting of scripts to other users but as a way for a single programmer to pull the tools he wants out of their tool bag quickly and build what is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Darkwater dont no if u stll buy any php programming books but most off them state that there meny class avalable free to use already pre written..................... if you as a programmer wants to no what going on within the class then read the god dam manual lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarebit Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 classes, other than overhead, just provide a clean namespace obviously you haven't read IMAP enough because it has settings for read only or not and other logins. precisely, it has settings to handle, whereas many pop3 servers don't have even the full spec implemented... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Can we all get down to working please, my posted link is it going to be used or are we all going to debate on this lol.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldude832 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Darkwater dont no if u stll buy any php programming books but most off them state that there meny class avalable free to use already pre written..................... if you as a programmer wants to no what going on within the class then read the god dam manual lol Your signature says it all you don't know all about php, no one does. Your methods might work for you but most people who programmer at a level near professional and above don't use third party junk because its reliability is not there (with a few exceptions such as phpmyadmin). When I write for clients I refuse to install or mod anything that I haven't worked on because I don't know and don't want to know how it works because I can usually write something better and more streamlined. Also if you are still reading php books your not learning books are a joke after you learn how to read the php manual. Once you get basic concepts down you shouldn't need any books other than the php manual and sql manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 completly agree........... my best friend php manual and mysql manual............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarebit Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 too true cooldude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWater Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 classes, other than overhead, just provide a clean namespace obviously you haven't read IMAP enough because it has settings for read only or not and other logins. precisely, it has settings to handle, whereas many pop3 servers don't have even the full spec implemented... No, they also provide integration and principles that could not be applied to procedural programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarebit Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 not sure about the private stuff when it comes to include, and i use associative arrays like structures, and variable 'pointers' to functions... tbh honest i dont try when it comes to php cos its not the simplistic way that i think generally, if u c what i mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 darkwater i never new that there was any procedural programming that couldnt be done, making a class more powerfull, you have scered me now, are u saying unless you learn class php programming your procedural programming will soon end........................ does this mean that class programming will eventually out weigh procedural programming becouse i did read that php class functions are going to be added to php does it mean that procedural programming functions will eventually be depecated........and php carry on adding class functions instead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldude832 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 PHP 6 = OOP that is the facts of life to php you need OOP to survive I made the transition aout 5 months ago and my productivity has gone up a lot. I have resold my primary classes for CMS/UMS 7 times in the last 2 months Its not that you can't use nonOOP methods its just that OOP once known is so much easier why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Whale thank u so much, oop is booming over procedural programming, ive noticed that my self, i no oop is hard but it a need to survive like u said............ i also noticed that meny scripts sold have oop in them and those what dont no one buys anymore very scary for the learner............ also i think php is in comp with asp im sure off it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWater Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 What? Also, is there a particular reason that you don't make an effort to type out your posts? It makes it VERY hard to understand what you're saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 yes im blind programmer sorry mate......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWater Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 yes im blind sorry mate......... Uhh....how do you program if you're blind? =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarebit Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 darkwater i never new that there was any procedural programming that couldnt be done, making a class more powerfull, you have scered me now, are u saying unless you learn class php programming your procedural programming will soon end........................ does this mean that class programming will eventually out weigh procedural programming becouse i did read that php class functions are going to be added to php does it mean that procedural programming functions will eventually be depecated........and php carry on adding class functions instead... it'll never get phased out, lol, what if you have the same function in each class? You'd need, sorry want, to use an external function rather than have it defined twice. Yes, classes seem to make life easier, in some ways they do make life convenient but definitely not insurmountable, and at the end of the day the byte-compiler will just turn it back to the procedural language it ever was. P.S. redarrow, me thinks your not blind (bcos letter usage pattern not fit), but was going to ask natural language. P.P.S Excuses if you are blind. P.P.P.SDarkwater, Technically blind can be serious tunnel vision etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 the screen talks to me no it all spech and shouting letters lol but i trie lol....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWater Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 @rarebit: Yeah, but you'd still have a hell of a time programming with any condition that would cause you to be legally blind. @redarrow: Screen readers would probably skip most of the characters used in programming, such as { } ( ) \ $ and stuff. =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 your write that why i get confused and upset when i get things wrong.......... but the zend communty been grate and very helpfull............. that why oop scered me........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWater Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 *facepalm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarebit Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i'd say plugging an' playing with classes would be a 'god' send then... not a bain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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