tibberous Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 At work we have over 500 sites, and most have email addresses. We run Plesk 8 which uses qmail and spam assassin, but we still get a ton of spam. Even blatantly obvious spam, like there the sender uses fake headers to match the recipients name gets through. Any idea how I can combat this? Is there a better way to handle email hosting for a large amount of people? Should email be moved to its own server? Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I've found that the best protection from spam is to never get it in the first place. One of my email addresses was posted on a web site for a year or so, and I get about 20 spam messages a day on it. (I'm not even exaggerating.) But, my other few email addresses get maybe 1 spam message a year. So, ever since then, I've been very careful to not have my email anywhere in bot-readable form. But, with 500 sites, that could be a bit of a problem. You could always adjust spam filters. Maybe Spam Assassin has some built in header spoof detector. As for the better way to handle email for a large amount of people part.... Can the server handle it? If the server can handle it fine and has a little room to grow, I wouldn't worry about moving servers. In the case that it eventually starts to get stressed, I don't know if I would move the email stuff to a bunch of different servers (the servers that each web server was on), or if I would have a dedicated email server. I guess a dedicated email server would be easier to manage. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfmason Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 One of my email addresses was posted on a web site for a year or so, and I get about 20 spam messages a day on it. (I'm not even exaggerating.) I wish I only got 20 a day. My gmail account gets several hundred a day and sometimes upwards of 1k. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 What the hell?! That's crazy. I guess it makes sense now, the feature to have everything spam-flagged except stuff from people in your contacts list. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerRobot Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 One of my email addresses was posted on a web site for a year or so, and I get about 20 spam messages a day on it. (I'm not even exaggerating.) I wish I only got 20 a day. My gmail account gets several hundred a day and sometimes upwards of 1k. Mine gets quite a lot too. However, i find gmail's spam filtering pretty damn good so it's not really a problem. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Based on the fact that I never touch the spam folder and that Gmail removes messages that are over 30 days old, I've had 898 on my @gmail.com and 47 on my @phpfreaks.com the last 30 days. Strangely, it seems that a lot of the spam mails I get on my @phpfreaks.com are specifically addressed at both me and thorpe at the same time... There is a contact email on phpfreaks.com, which just forwards to all admins, and it gets spam as well even though I actually never told anyone about it. I guess that 'contact' is just a very generic email that's likely to exist. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Weird.... Stupid spammers. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibberous Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 Problem is that it's other peoples accounts who are getting the spam - I can't control where they put their email addresses. I wish I could get something like gmails spam filter, since SpamAssassin doesn't do very good (unless I don't have it set right?) Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 You can if you migrate to Google Apps. We use it here on PHP Freaks. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibberous Posted January 3, 2009 Author Share Posted January 3, 2009 That's cool but we couldn't do it. We have at least 1000 email accounts, so $50 / user account / year would be an extra $50,000 =/ Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 There is a free plan as well, which works quite well (it's the one we use). You can compare premium and standard here: http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/editions.html Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-728932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 That's pretty cool. I never knew about that. I should've used it for my dad's stuff lol. Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/139293-managing-email/#findComment-729085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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