How to fix a gab between picture and cell

Wuhtzu · October 9, 2006

Hey guys

I have this gab just beneath my banner and I can't locate my mistake.
The site:

http://wuhtzu.dk/random/denrigtigemening/phpfreaksquestion/drm.html

If you try clicking on the banner you'll see the dotted border (which appears when you press a picture-link) i around both the image and the gab -> I simply does not understand.

[b]drm.html:[/b]
[code]
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>

<head>
<title>denRIGTIGEmening.dk</title>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/main.css">
</head>

<body>

<table class="maintable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td class="leftshadowsite"></td>
<td class="contentcell">

<table class="contenttable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td class="banner" colspan="2"><a class="bannerlink" href="drm.php"><img alt="denRIGTIGEmening.dk" src="gfx/banner800x98.png"></a>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="menucontainer" colspan="2">

<table class="menutable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td align="center"><a class="menu" href="drm.php">   Blog</a></td>
<td align="center"><a class="menu" href="drm.php">Meninger</a></td>
<td align="center"><a class="menu" href="drm.php">Artikler</a></td>
<td align="center"><a class="menu" href="forum">Forum</a></td>
<td align="center"><a class="menu" href="drm.php">Om os   </a></td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class=dropshadow colspan="2" >
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="maincontent" valign="top">
</td>
<td class="rightcontent">

<table class="rightcontenttable" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td class="topdose" colspan="3">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="leftdose">
</td>
<td class="centerdose">
</td>
<td class="rightdose">
</td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
<td class="rightshadowsite"></td>
</tr>
</table>

</body>

</html>
[/code]

[b]main.css:[/b]
[code]
/*Stylesheet for denRIGTIGEmening.dk*/

/* Main Layout */
html{
height: 100%;
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
}

body{
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
background-color: #727272;
height: 100%;
font-family: verdana;
}

img{
border: 0px;
}

table.maintable{
width: 866px;
height: 100%;
margin: 0px auto 0px auto;
}

table.contenttable{
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}

td.contentcell{
width: 800px;
}

td.banner{
height: 98px;
}

td.menucontainer{
height: 30px;

}

table.menutable{
width: 800px;
height: 30px;
background-image: url(../gfx/menudrop800x30.png);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
}

td.dropshadow{
height: 16px;
background-image: url(../gfx/dropshadow800x16.png);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
}

td.maincontent{
width: 536px;
background-color: #C95F29;
}

td.rightcontent{
width: 264px;
background-color: #aa3e1c;
}

td.topdose{
height: 10px;
background-image: url(../gfx/topdose264x10.png);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
}

td.rightdose{
width: 9px;
background-image: url(../gfx/rightdose42x9.png);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
height: 100%;
}

td.leftdose{
width: 13px;
background-image: url(../gfx/leftdose42x13.png);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
height: 100%;
}

td.leftshadowsite{
background-image: url(../gfx/leftshadowsite420x33.png);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
width: 33px;
}

td.centerdose{
width: 242px;
height: 100%;
}

td.rightshadowsite{
background-image: url(../gfx/rightshadowsite420x33.png);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
width: 33px;
}

table.rightcontenttable{
width: 264px;
height: 100%;
}

/*LINKS*/
a{
text-decoration: none;
font-family: verdana;
}

a:link{
color: #000000;
}

a:visited{
color: #000000;
}

a:hover{
color: #FFFFFF;
}

a:active{
color: #FFFFFF;
}

a.menu{
text-decoration: none;
font-weight: bold;
}

[/code]

If I remove the doctype everything is fine, so I must be doing something which is not allowed in the HTML 4.01 Strict standard.
Suprisingly both my css and html validates perfectly in the w3 validator:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwuhtzu.dk%2Frandom%2Fdenrigtigemening%2Fphpfreaksquestion%2Fdrm.html
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwuhtzu.dk%2Frandom%2Fdenrigtigemening%2Fphpfreaksquestion%2Fstyle%2Fmain.css&usermedium=all

Please have a look at my code and tell me what I am not seeing!

Wuhtzu

Wuhtzu · October 9, 2006

Changing

[code]<a class="bannerlink" href="drm.php"><img alt="denRIGTIGEmening.dk" src="gfx/banner800x98.png"></a> [/code]

into

[code]<div class="banner"><a class="bannerlink" href="drm.php"><img alt="denRIGTIGEmening.dk" src="gfx/banner800x98.png"></a></div>[/code]

solved the problem, but I do not understand why there has to be a <div> there? Why can't <td> hold the image/link properly?

Daniel0 · October 9, 2006

In my opinion you shouldn't even use tables for this purpose as tables are for tabular data.

Wuhtzu · October 9, 2006

I knew someone would say that I should get rid of the tables :)

fenway · October 10, 2006

I might have been the extra CR/LF.

Wuhtzu · October 11, 2006

fenway, would be so kind to explain your self a little more?

fenway · October 11, 2006

Sometimes, when you have a hard-return in the HTML itself, you can extra spaces... this is very common when placing an IMG tag inside a A tag, but having each on its own line.

Wuhtzu · October 12, 2006

Thanks Fenway -> it actually worked:

I changed this:
[code]
<td class="banner" colspan="2"><a class="bannerlink" href="drm.php"><img alt="denRIGTIGEmening.dk" src="gfx/banner800x98.png"></a>
</td>
[/code]

into:
[code]
<td class="banner" colspan="2"><a class="bannerlink" href="drm.php"><img alt="denRIGTIGEmening.dk" src="gfx/banner800x98.png"></a></td>
[/code]

Of course it was IE showing it improperly -> I tested it using browsershots and all browsers, except IE, showed it without the gab... strange :S

[b]Daniel0:[/b]
If you have 20 minutes to spare of your life I would be more than happy to have you help me build the "layout" using css... I have tryed this; http://www.wuhtzu.dk/random/denrigtigemening/csstry/drm.html but I can't get it to work properly....

fenway · October 12, 2006

It's up to the browser to decide what it wants to do with extra whitespace characters like this, I guess.

Wuhtzu · October 12, 2006

But am I not corrent when i say it should not matter how you
HTML wrote?

[code]
<html><head><title>Somepage</title></head><body><a href="somewhere"><img src="image.gif"></a></body></html>
[/code]

should give the same output as

[code]
<html>

<head>
<title>Somepage</title>
</head>

<body>
<a href="somewhere"><img src="image.gif"></a>
</body>

</html>
[/code]

fenway · October 12, 2006

It should matter... it depends on the tag. Sometimes you just don't see any difference.

anatak · October 19, 2006

to get rid of tables you can look at
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/
tutorial 9 is the one you might be most interessted in

I did not try it myself (too busy at the moment)

good luck
anatak

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