greenace92 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Not sure if this is related to the thread but I do think that it is I have a server using Apache I tried to set up an email doing something@domain.com I tried to point the MX records to the server It still doesn't work, if I try to send anything to that email, I get a response saying "Recepient not found" smtp.secureserver.net... blah Since I changed the MX records to something other than smtp.secureserver.net, I don't know why I still get that message I was trying to save on spending the $3.95 or whatever for email with office 365 haha Any help would be greatly appreciated Still, logically one question is obvious, don't I need to specify the storage location of the email... ? I mean there was an option in Cpanel where I created the email account but I don't understand what that means... did it configure a storage location? I don't know... This probably is not an appropriate thread section for this question Edited December 4, 2014 by greenace92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Apache plays no part in any of this, so no the Apache forum isn't really the appropriate place to ask. We don't have a mail server forum but this "Other Web Server Software" is close enough. DNS may take a while to fully propagate, so there's that. Cpanel where? Did you install it yourself or is it part of a hosting package? Is there an actual email server set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Ah thanks for moving the thread I don't even know, that's the reason I suspect it isn't working "suspect" ha I'm using GoDaddy and they use CPanel / WHM to manage domains and server respectively Well CPanel gives you all the options, editing SSL, editing apache httpd.conf etc... I thought it was enough to "create email account" well here I'll take some screenshots I think that is the key problem "email server" which I do not have set up, I imagine I could just create a "partition?" or allocate some space on the server I wanted to figure this out that's part of the reason aside from being cheap that I didn't buy the email service These are the steps I have taken so far I used to get the email that said "...permanently failed..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Take a look at their documentation for DNS. There are four mandatory DNS records you need, including one MX record (Host=@, Points To=mail.domain.com) that I don't see on your domain. Does an email to you@mail.domain.com work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) is that literal? you@mail.domain.com? Alright, I'll take a look at this in a minute, there's some random change with apache and now one of my self hosted websites won't work I get this Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page I don't know what happened, site was working a day or two ago, not relative to this thread but... Edited December 4, 2014 by greenace92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 That was so weird, my website had been working for several weeks through htdocs then suddenly I'm asked to move everything to var/html Oh well at least I figured it out, now to try and get my own "professional" email I figure it is better than greenace92 through gmail ha! I always feel insecure when I give that out, I'm like "yeah... it's old..." haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Yo soy no comprende I changed the records following that website I keep sending test emails and while I no longer receive the "recipient not found, failure" message, I still don't receive messages... What's the deal with mail.domain.com vs. name@domain.com Maybe it is a matter of time, TTL is 1 hour Edited December 4, 2014 by greenace92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroNiX Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Doesn't your hosting company have a guide to show you how to set up email for your server? If not you should be able to get better help through their customer support. If not, then you have a really crappy hosting company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Haha are you advertising ? <-- not a serious comment/joke I don't know... I'm not sure the boundaries or limits of my customer support, last time I tried to get them to help me with in depth guide to setting up the VPS they're like "Oh, I can't say... you'll need to pay an additional $80.00" although I should note how eager they were to find links or articles for me on how to do stuff, gotta make dat cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 I can't edit past posts? I was going to push everything down on my first post and list out my solution, I'm following this tutorial and figured I would consolidate the process for others to easily get this information and apply it accordingly http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/how-to-run-your-own-e-mail-server-with-your-own-domain-part-1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 This is significantly more work than I want to do right now, the email account is more of a bonus, I did forward to my main gmail account but that doesn't seem to be working either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 is that literal? you@mail.domain.com?No, it's your-account@mail.your-domain.com. Only the "mail." was literal. You hadn't mentioned your email username or domain name in your posts - just in the images - so I didn't mention them either. I get this Apache2 Ubuntu Default PageTypically (a) a missing VirtualHost configuration, or (b) not putting your files in the right place. That was so weird, my website had been working for several weeks through htdocs then suddenly I'm asked to move everything to var/htmlThat would be directly addressing the (b) above I keep sending test emails and while I no longer receive the "recipient not found, failure" message, I still don't receive messages...Spam folder, not receiving bounce messages, failing to send in a different way, blah blah blah. I don't know... I'm not sure the boundaries or limits of my customer support, last time I tried to get them to help me with in depth guide to setting up the VPS they're like "Oh, I can't say... you'll need to pay an additional $80.00" although I should note how eager they were to find links or articles for me on how to do stuff, gotta make dat cakeGoDaddy I can't edit past posts?Only for a few minutes after posting. Easier to read a new post than to backtrack through a thread to understand why people seem to be replying to something that doesn't exist (anymore). And edited posts don't "bump" threads. I did forward to my main gmail account but that doesn't seem to be working eitherCan't forward emails that aren't being received Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Wow as always, thank you for your thorough response It seems like my main problem is not trying to send the email to an address as you had first mentioned username@mail.normalbus.com This seemed to work however now I get a new error that says 550-Please turn on SMTP Authentication in your mail client Which client is that I wonder? My phone or my server? Or Google? Anyway this is progress to say the least Thank you once again, I'm sort of bouncing all over the place, now I'm trying to figure out how to salt a password then hash, type of value/length for database entry... etc... so much work haha Yeah see I don't get this... on the Email Accounts part of CPanel I am given the form to make an email account but it has a suffix, @normalbus.com So then, below that I see my acocunt as name@normalbus.com So how does the whole name@mail.normalbus.com thing work, is that like the record function @ which connects to the mail.normalbus.com? Edited December 5, 2014 by greenace92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 The client would be whatever is sending the email, and it's to do with the server you're sending email through, not the one you're sending the message to. Using Gmail? You have to set up your client to authenticate against the server: Google doesn't allow anonymous access, you have to put in your username/email address and password to send from that account just like you have to do to get to the emails you've received. Exactly how and where you enter that information into your client depends on what you're using: mail() and PHP, or some email client? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) What the H it is right here I see, I just did this txt edit on my domain lol v=spf1 include:_spf.google.com ~all but I guess I'm looking at the wrong end of the gun Wait I'm not understanding this, so you're saying if other people tried to send me emails, they're going to get the same error? What the efff I get that it's a security thing but how many clients or whatever do I have to approve? Why doesn't it just work... (crying) haha alright Edited December 5, 2014 by greenace92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) I don't understand what "your mail client' means, I tried both from my phone and from my computer using Gmail Edited December 5, 2014 by greenace92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenace92 Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Anyway this isn't hugely important at the moment, I would like to get this to work but I may also just spare the four dollars... don't give up young one. That is the way of the bum. Messages have been accepted? Yet still there is the delivery failure message, don't know what that means Edited December 5, 2014 by greenace92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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