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hello and good day dear Linux-experts,

i want to install a new opensuse linux on a notebook. i want to upgrade is the following:

this one: Akoya P 6512 15" OpenSuse 13.1: AMD Athlon X2 P320, 2,10 GHz, 4 GB 320 GB hdd-drive

what is wanted:
i want to do a total fresh installation
i want to have not tooo much partitions!
i only want to run opensuse 13.2
i want to have some kind of native linux partitions - such as ext 4 - #


what do you suggest - should go with the new default BTRFS file system?!?

well to begin with the beginning: i applied the following commands

a. lsblk

b. fdisk -l


see the results,,,, ;

 

linux-c5sz:/home/martin # lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda 8:0 0 465,8G 0 disk
├─sda1 8:1 0 4G 0 part [sWAP]
├─sda2 8:2 0 102M 0 part
├─sda4 8:4 0 1K 0 part
├─sda5 8:5 0 2G 0 part
├─sda6 8:6 0 4G 0 part
├─sda7 8:7 0 10G 0 part
├─sda8 8:8 0 20G 0 part /
└─sda9 8:9 0 389,6G 0 part /home
sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom




and the following fdisk -l

 

linux-c5sz:/home/martin # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Units = Sektoren of 1 * 512 = 512 byte
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xb8fa3ecd

Gerät boot. Anfang Ende Blöcke Id System
/dev/sda1 63 8385929 4192933+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 8385930 8594774 104422+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 * 8803620 976768064 483982222+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 8803683 12996584 2096451 83 Linux
/dev/sda6 12996648 21382514 4192933+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 21382578 42347339 10482381 83 Linux
/dev/sda8 117821440 159766527 20972544 83 Linux
/dev/sda9 159768576 976766975 408499200 83 Linux
linux-c5sz:/home/martin #




subsequently the questions; which partition logic should i choose.

what is wanted: i want to have not tooo much partitions!
i only want to run opensuse 13.2

note: i want to erase all the existing partition logic /(that is currently existing)
i do this with Gparted.

which partitions should i take?
which file system ?


i am curious to get to know your ideas

3 partitions could be enough for me, in case you are using that machine as a linux desktop - root (/), swap and /home. How many OS's you want to run on that hard-drive? Why do you want to use BTRFS?

hello dear Jazzman

 

 

 

many many thanks for the reply. your answer is very very helpful.

 

to answer your questions:

 

i only want to use one operating system

i am not sure about the BTRFS question

 

some of my friends recommend it as it should be cool for the root partition and because it supports snapshots

 

 

well i am not sure about the usage of BTRFS - would  you recomment it!?

 

 

 

well one question tough

 

one question regarding the preparing of an upgrade.

today i want to ask a linux-question: i am preparing a upgrade from opensuse 13.1 to 13.2

and i want to do a fresh installation.

first of all - as a preliminary task i will do a saving of all the files - that are in the home of the current installation

what else shoud i safe - more than the /home/my_name

 

should i save anyting else ...

http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html

General overview of the Linux file system
 

Table 3-2. Subdirectories of the root directory
Directory    Content
/bin    Common programs, shared by the system, the system administrator and the users.
/boot    The startup files and the kernel, vmlinuz. In some recent distributions also grub data. Grub is the GRand Unified Boot loader and is an attempt to get rid of the many different boot-loaders we know today.
/dev    Contains references to all the CPU peripheral hardware, which are represented as files with special properties.
/etc    Most important system configuration files are in /etc, this directory contains data similar to those in the Control Panel in Windows
/home    Home directories of the common users.
/initrd    (on some distributions) Information for booting. Do not remove!
/lib    Library files, includes files for all kinds of programs needed by the system and the users.
/lost+found    Every partition has a lost+found in its upper directory. Files that were saved during failures are here.
/misc    For miscellaneous purposes.
/mnt    Standard mount point for external file systems, e.g. a CD-ROM or a digital camera.
/net    Standard mount point for entire remote file systems
/opt    Typically contains extra and third party software.
/proc    A virtual file system containing information about system resources. More information about the meaning of the files in proc is obtained by entering the command man proc in a terminal window. The file proc.txt discusses the virtual file system in detail.
/root    The administrative user's home directory. Mind the difference between /, the root directory and /root, the home directory of the root user.
/sbin    Programs for use by the system and the system administrator.
/tmp    Temporary space for use by the system, cleaned upon reboot, so don't use this for saving any work!
/usr    Programs, libraries, documentation etc. for all user-related programs.
/var    Storage for all variable files and temporary files created by users, such as log files, the mail queue, the print spooler area, space for temporary storage of files downloaded from the Internet, or to keep an image of a CD before burning it.

well - reagarding the thunderbird and other things more.
note:  i have thunderbird and enigmail up and running.

so i need to save
a. the passwords
b. the mails.


question: is there a need to save more than the home/my_name ?!

love to hear from you

greetings

Edited by Maze

 

what else shoud i safe - more than the /home/my_name

You don't have to backUp all the /home directory, but only -> your documents, music, vidoes, pictures and thunderbird (mozilla) directory.  If you have a data (websites) in /var/www apache home dir, you should backUp it as well.

 

 

i only want to use one operating system

Then, approximately, 13 - 15GB for root, 2 - 3GB for swap and the rest for /home.

 

 

i am not sure about the BTRFS question

BTRFS is a new file system, use ext4 instead.

hello and good day dear jazzmann,

 

first of all - a happy happy new year - all the best to you !!

 

 

many many thanks for the reply  - i did it:  i runned the installation of opensuse 13.2

well i am not an expert  see the results of the partition....

 

note there were many mnay partitions on the harddrive ...

now i have a few less that that many

 

 


Für weitere Einzelheiten siehe fdisk(8).
linux-a9sq:/home/martin # fdisk -l

Festplatte /dev/sda: 465,8 GiB, 500107862016 Bytes, 976773168 Sektoren
Einheiten: Sektoren von 1 * 512 = 512 Bytes
Sektorgröße (logisch/physikalisch): 512 Bytes / 512 Bytes
E/A-Größe (minimal/optimal): 512 Bytes / 512 Bytes
Festplattenbezeichnungstyp: dos
Festplattenbezeichner: 0xb8fa3ecd

Device     Boot     Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1              63   8385929   8385867     4G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2  *      8385930   8594774    208845   102M 83 Linux
/dev/sda4         8803620 976768064 967964445 461,6G  5 Extended                                                                                                                                
/dev/sda5        21382578  42347339  20964762    10G 83 Linux                                                                                                                                   
/dev/sda6       159768576 976766975 816998400 389,6G 83 Linux                                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                                                                                
linux-a9sq:/home/martin # /usr/share/applications/kde4/konsole.desktop                                                                                                                          
                                                                            



how do you think about the patition logic?

btw: have found some issues with the network configuration---..

i allways struggle with ifup and knetowkrmanager ....  At the moment i only can run the notebook with the ethernet wire connected. No wlan is possible

what can i do now;

see some issues that i found out!


 

!!! CND0120E: the Netzwerkinterface wlp4s0 has got no  IP Adress
!!! CND0290E: no networkconfiguration for Interface wlp4s0 found
!!! CND0490E: no Accesspoint with the  SSID on the Interface wlp4s0 found
!!! CND0380E: no WLANs at Interface wlp4s0 found. the hardware and drivers are not well configured



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