StevenOliver Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Question 1.) When I change a record in a mySQL table with a key, how come I don't need to delete and recreate the entire key? I always assumed that a "key" is some sort of super-condensed index that probably gets loaded into mySQL memory. If that's the case, how come making changes to the records (even small changes) doesn't throw the entire key off? Question 2.) I've seen 2 ways of adding a primary key. Using an example column "merchandise," what are the differences and which way is better: a.) ALTER TABLE mytable ADD PRIMARY KEY (merchandise) b.) ALTER TABLE mytable ADD PRIMARY KEY merchandise (merchandise) Thank you! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1. Because MySQL updates the index automatically. After all, having to manually rebuild the index every time data changes would be incredibly tedious. 2. Same thing. One key is named automatically, one key is named manually. And no, the name does not matter. But adding the primary key after the table is created is annoying - do it when the table is created, inside the table definition. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenOliver Posted April 21, 2019 Author Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) Requinix, thank you for your answers. Would you please clarify the "mySQL updates the index automatically" part? Given a database with 100000+ records: 1.) with Primary Key, takes .001 seconds to do a lookup. 2.) without Primary Key, takes 20 seconds to do a lookup. 3.) after removing primary key, "Add primary key" takes about 1 minute. If I alter a record, I can immediately do another lookup and it will only take .001 seconds. That must mean mySQL doesn't re-index the entire table when updating the index (because reindexing takes an entire minute, and if my table isn't reindexed yet, the lookup would take forever...). I wonder how and where it updates the index? Would you please clarify your "one key is named automatically" answer? What exactly is happening when I issue this command:ALTER TABLE mytable ADD PRIMARY KEY merchandise (merchandise) (I'm still not understanding the difference between "...add primary key columnName (columnName)" and "...add primary key (columnName)" Thank you!! Edited April 21, 2019 by StevenOliver Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, StevenOliver said: Requinix, thank you for your answers. Would you please clarify the "mySQL updates the index automatically" part? Given a database with 100000+ records: 1.) with Primary Key, takes .001 seconds to do a lookup. 2.) without Primary Key, takes 20 seconds to do a lookup. 3.) after removing primary key, "Add primary key" takes about 1 minute. If I alter a record, I can immediately do another lookup and it will only take .001 seconds. That must mean mySQL doesn't re-index the entire table when updating the index (because reindexing takes an entire minute, and if my table isn't reindexed yet, the lookup would take forever...). I wonder how and where it updates the index? This may be a bit more technical than you're expecting, but it answers essentially what you're asking about. 1 hour ago, StevenOliver said: Would you please clarify your "one key is named automatically" answer? What exactly is happening when I issue this command:ALTER TABLE mytable ADD PRIMARY KEY merchandise (merchandise) (I'm still not understanding the difference between "...add primary key columnName (columnName)" and "...add primary key (columnName)" Thank you!! Have MySQL describe the table and its indexes for you after each command. Look for the difference. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenOliver Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Requinix, thank you!! That is exactly what I was looking for. (It actually talks about exactly what I'm asking -- what happens when you delete values, etc.). Thank you!! Regarding question 2... (good idea, by the way.... try both then describe the tables!).... So.... I just now created two tables, one with "...primary key (col3)" and the other with "...primary key col3 (col3)" but they both look the same, so I am still not quite sure what the difference is: describe Table1 +-------+------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | +-------+------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ | col1 | varchar(43) | YES | | NULL | | | col2 | varchar(3) | NO | PRI | NULL | | | col3 | varchar(3) | YES | | NULL | | +-------+------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ describe Table2 +-------+------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | +-------+------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ | col1 | varchar(43) | YES | | NULL | | | col2 | varchar(3) | NO | PRI | NULL | | | col3 | varchar(3) | YES | | NULL | | +-------+------------+------+-----+---------+-------+ I also ran the command "show index from Table1" and it was identical to Table2's index. Thank you. Edited April 22, 2019 by StevenOliver Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Try more like a SHOW INDEX FROM TableX SHOW CREATE TABLE TableX Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenOliver Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 Hmm... I did that, the results are absolutely identical. I created the tables like this: Create table Table1( col1 varchar(3), col2 varchar(3), primary key col2 (col2) ); Create table Table2( col1 varchar(3), col2 varchar(3), primary key (col2) ); What would you think I should be seeing that I'm missing? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Okay, so I thought a SHOW CREATE TABLE would include the indexes. Do the other SHOW INDEX FROM. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenOliver Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 I did -- I did "show index from Table1" and the result was identical to "show index from Table2." Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Are you sure? What was the output? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenOliver Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 show index from Table1; +--------+------------+----------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+---------------+ | Table | Non_unique | Key_name | Seq_in_index | Column_name | Collation | Cardinality | Sub_part | Packed | Null | Index_type | Comment | Index_comment | +--------+------------+----------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+---------------+ | Table1 | 0 | PRIMARY | 1 | col2 | A | 0 | NULL | NULL | | BTREE | | | +--------+------------+----------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+---------------+ 1 row in set (0.007 sec) show index from Table2; +--------+------------+----------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+---------------+ | Table | Non_unique | Key_name | Seq_in_index | Column_name | Collation | Cardinality | Sub_part | Packed | Null | Index_type | Comment | Index_comment | +--------+------------+----------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+---------------+ | Table2 | 0 | PRIMARY | 1 | col2 | A | 0 | NULL | NULL | | BTREE | | | +--------+------------+----------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+---------------+ 1 row in set (0.007 sec) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Where there any warnings with the "ALTER TABLE mytable ADD PRIMARY KEY merchandise (merchandise)" statement? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenOliver Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 No -- no warnings. I created the tables with both "primary key col2 (col2)" and "primary key (col2)" and there were no warnings. Then I tried the "alter table" syntax after dropping the primary keys: "alter table Table1 add primary key col2 (col2)" -and- "alter table Table1 add primary key (col2)" ... and neither of those gave any warnings. For all intents and purposes, they seem 100% identical. Perhaps in the olden days the "...primary key col2 (col2)" was how it used to be done, then it got deprecated and now "...primary key (col2)" is how it's done today, with both commands having the same effect. What are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
requinix Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 For a regular index, that "col2" would be the name of it. For a primary key (which I forgot was different) that doesn't use a name, that "col2" would be the index type. Of course "col2" and "merchandise" are not valid index types so I would have expected at least a warning. And I don't have a MySQL lying around to test with. So I'm thinking it's (accidentally?) ignored for sake of compatibility with other types of indexes. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barand Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) Primary keys do not require a name. Other indexes do. If you do not provide a name, MySql will generate one mysql> CREATE TABLE test_a ( -> aaa int NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY, -> bbb int, -> ccc int -> ); mysql> ALTER TABLE test_a ADD INDEX (bbb); -- no name specified mysql> ALTER TABLE test_a ADD INDEX my_index_name (ccc); -- name specified mysql> SHOW CREATE TABLE test_a; +--------+---------------------------------- | Table | Create Table +--------+---------------------------------- | test_a | CREATE TABLE `test_a` ( `aaa` int(11) NOT NULL, `bbb` int(11) DEFAULT NULL, `ccc` int(11) DEFAULT NULL, PRIMARY KEY (`aaa`), KEY `bbb` (`bbb`), -- name generated automatically KEY `my_index_name` (`ccc`) ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 +--------+---------------------------------- Edited April 22, 2019 by Barand Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/308619-mysql-and-rebuilding-keys/#findComment-1566252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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