Looktrne Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 anyway to protect against cheaters changing the variables in a flash game?? the cheaters are using cheat engine.... any help is appreciated Paul Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Without any specifics of how the variables are being passed to flash, we can't really be of much help. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-463232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daperson Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 Depending on how this is done, there are a selection of soloutions. If you mean people are submitting bogus scores to your high score table or such, that's an easier one to fix, just make each flash game provide a secret key passed over POST to the score script which will only accept scores containing that code. Or even better, encrypt the scores in the flash game and send as an encrypted string you can decrypt at the other end, so sending the score script large number won't affect it. The other possibility i can think of is people using a RAM hack to actually change the numbers in your flash game on their computer. To my knoweldge there is nothing you can do about this. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-468768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looktrne Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 Yea I think it is the ram hack Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-470125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aximbigfan Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 They are changing values in the RAM. I did this once, but it was for educational proposes only, I didn't submit anything. Basically, there is a program out there, which name escapes me right now, that lets you change values in RAM. t isn't as easy as you might think. I did it with desktop tower defense, which I found to have excellent cheat protection. It actully locks up if you give yourself too much money, and you tyr to spend it and buy too many towers. Chris Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-470139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
burtybob Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 They are changing values in the RAM. I did this once, but it was for educational proposes only, I didn't submit anything. Basically, there is a program out there, which name escapes me right now, that lets you change values in RAM. t isn't as easy as you might think. I did it with desktop tower defense, which I found to have excellent cheat protection. It actully locks up if you give yourself too much money, and you tyr to spend it and buy too many towers. Chris The locking up might not be anti-cheat but rather the fact that the processor cant deal with the larger amounts or the flash cant deal with it rather then well desgined protection. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-474018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aximbigfan Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 They are changing values in the RAM. I did this once, but it was for educational proposes only, I didn't submit anything. Basically, there is a program out there, which name escapes me right now, that lets you change values in RAM. t isn't as easy as you might think. I did it with desktop tower defense, which I found to have excellent cheat protection. It actully locks up if you give yourself too much money, and you tyr to spend it and buy too many towers. Chris The locking up might not be anti-cheat but rather the fact that the processor cant deal with the larger amounts or the flash cant deal with it rather then well desgined protection. Sorry for the late response, been busy... Anyway, the developer actully admitted it was an anti cheat thing. Chris Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-475532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSAddonDeveloper Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Ahahahhahaha sorry, it twas me! Well not on your site but on some sites I use a program called cheatengine, It allows me to change the variables in my ram then it get passed onto flash. The way it works is u scan a program (IE: IE7) and u look for values with your score times by 8, then u change ur score and see what values change, then u know its that value that ur looking for and u can change the value for it, like If I want 250,000points I would type in 2,000,000. I find it fun to use! Unfourtunitly there is not really any known way to protect against these type of attacks, All I can say is get games written in java, There a little harder to alter the variables with. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-479447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looktrne Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 Thanks for all your replys but I have found a way to identify the cheaters.. unfortunatly I cannot post it here because that would make it hackable thanks guys Paul Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/90232-i-have-flash-cheaters-in-my-arcade/#findComment-482494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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