<h4></h4> makes extra space thats unwanted??

blueman378 · February 18, 2008

hi guys well im trying to use this,

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<title>Title here</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style.css" />
</head>
<body id="altbody">
<div id="wrapper-header">
<div id="header"><img src="/Night Games/images/banner.gif" align="left" /></div>
</div>

<div id="wrapper-menu">
<div id="menu">
	<ul>
<li><a href="#">link1</a>a></li>
<li><a href="#">link2</a>a></li>
<li><a href="#">link3</a>a></li>
	</ul>
</div>
</div>

<div id="content">
<div id="center">
<div id="centerhead">
<h4>Title here</h4>
</div>
<div id="centercont">
		</div>
</div>

</div>

<div id="footer">   |  © Name here</div>

</body>

</html>

and

body {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
padding: 0;
color: black;
background-color: #eee;
line-height: 130%;
text-align: center;
}

#wrapper-header {	background: #222; }

#header {
background: #222 url('images/banner_back.gif') right repeat-x;
width: 100%;
height: 150px;
line-height: 125px;
margin: 0 auto;
border-left: 1px solid #707070;
border-right: 1px solid #707070;
text-align: left;
}

#header h1 {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
color: #eee;
font-size: 220%;
padding-left: 10px;
letter-spacing: -1px;
font:Comic Sans MS;
}

#wrapper-menu {
background: #88ac0b url('images/menu-background.png') top left repeat-x;
float: left;
width: 100%;
}

#menu {
width: 75%;
margin: 0 auto;
font-size: 95%;
white-space: nowrap; /* stops half a menu link dropping to next line. Instead, the whole link will drop. This only happens if you have a lot of menu links, and large text size */
padding-right: 2px;	/* The menu far left, and far right borders are not quite lining up in non IE browsers for some reason. This makes it less noticable */
}

* html #menu { padding-right: 0; } /* See above comment. This re-adjusts IE to the above padding */

#menu ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
list-style: none;
float: left;
border-left: 1px solid #95bc0e;
border-right: 1px solid #95bf0f;
width: 100%;
}

#menu li { display: inline; }

#menu a:link, #menu a:visited {
padding: 0.25em 1em;
background: transparent;
color:#FFFFFF;
text-decoration: none;
float: left;
border-right: 1px solid #95bc0e;
}

#menu a:hover {
background: #b6e41c url('images/menu-hover.png') repeat-x;
color:#CCCCCC;
}

#content {
width: 73%; /* 73% because it has 1% padding on each side, which brings it to 75% wide */
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 3.5em 1% 20px 1%;
border-left: 1px solid #bbb;
border-right: 1px solid #bbb;
background: white;
font-size: 90%;
text-align: left;
}

* html #content { padding-top: 1.8em; } /* Set padding top in IE to 20px */

#footer {
margin: 0 auto;
padding: 2px 1%;
width: 73%;
text-align: right;
color: white;
letter-spacing: 0.15em;
background: #88ac0b url('images/menu-background.png') top left repeat-x;
border: 1px solid #a0c80e;
font-size: 80%;
}

#center {
margin: 0 auto;
width: 90%;
background-color:#FF0000;
border: 1px groove #a0c80e;
font-size: 80%;
border:double;
}

#centerhead {
margin: 0 auto;
padding:0;
width: 100%;
background: #FF0000 url('images/menu-background.png') top left repeat-x;
	border: 1px solid #a0c80e;
}

#centerhead h4 {
color:#ffffff;
padding:0;
letter-spacing: -1px;

}

#centercont {
margin: 0 auto;
width: 100%;
background-color:#DFDFDF;
font-size: 80%;
}

#footer a:link {
color:#333333;
font-weight:bold;
}

#footer a:hover {
color:#333333;
font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic;
}

h2 {
color: #666;
padding-bottom: 3px;
border-bottom: 1px solid #a0c80e;
font-size: 150%;
letter-spacing: -1px;
}

a:link, a:visited {
color: #260;
text-decoration: none;
}

a:hover {
color: #000;
text-decoration: underline;
}

p { margin-left: 1em; }

which works fine except for well

(see screenshot) http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=182876.0;attach=3835;image

it creates a extra line underneath the title bar,

the moment i remove <h4></h4>

its perfect, any ideas?

one other random thing but is it jsut me or has the php freaks logo gone byebye?

Rowno · February 18, 2008

Hello Matt , it's because the <h(insert number here)> tags act like a <p> tag too, that's why I never use them and stick to stylesheets instead.

TheFilmGod · February 18, 2008

Hello Matt , it's because the <h(insert number here)> tags act like a <p> tag too, that's why I never use them and stick to stylesheets instead.

You made absolutely no sense. Because to solve this problem, you use stylesheets, and still use the <h4>.

The solution:

/* Style Sheet */

#centerhead h4 {

margin: 0;

padding: 0;

}

blueman378 · February 18, 2008

i tried that yet it still has the same effect

TheFilmGod · February 19, 2008

I tried looking into the source code and css but I still couldn't find the problem.

So, we need to clean up some of code/css before anything. You use many empty divs - get rid of those. Get rid of double divs.

Like so:

<div id="something">
<div id="something 2">
    hello!
<?div>
</div>

to:

hello

</div>

and have the two ids' declartations combined in the same id.

Change all percent to px or em (at least for testing now).

This might take a long time, but it is almost impossible to debug something that is full of empty divs that don't do anything.

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