langenf Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Hi, Iam a bit of newbie to OOP and absolute newbie to design patterns. Was asked to build a slightly complex application (preferably using OO PHP) but without the use of frameworks, data abstraction classes etc. After browsing a bit in this forum, it seems like designing the app in MVC pattern is a good idea, although I understand the MVC tutorial in phpit only very vaguely. ATM, I have made the database schema and also the HTML pages with the forms. Where do I proceed from here?. Is MVC suitable for beginners like me?. langenf Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/123253-mvc-as-a-choice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnoTheDev Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Not for beginners. I would not recommend tring to implement this if you are not using an existing framework. This statement makes no sense: (preferably using OO PHP) but without the use of frameworks, data abstraction, classes etc OOP is all about data abstraction, classes, objects, inheritence, etc Guessing your skillset you maybe better sticking with a procedural approach. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/123253-mvc-as-a-choice/#findComment-636540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
langenf Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Not for beginners. I would not recommend tring to implement this if you are not using an existing framework. This statement makes no sense: (preferably using OO PHP) but without the use of frameworks, data abstraction, classes etc OOP is all about data abstraction, classes, objects, inheritence, etc Guessing your skillset you maybe better sticking with a procedural approach. Thanks for your reply. By frameworks, data abstraction, classes i meant i wont be allowed to use (install) external frameworks such as cakephp,symphony etc. By data abstraction or classes I meant stuff like mysqlext,PDo etc. I would rephrase that by - I was asked to code that application using ONLY php as OO programming tool. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/123253-mvc-as-a-choice/#findComment-636588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWater Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 But you don't need to install anything in order to use them...just unpack some files. o_O Fyi, Cake and the like are "ONLY php". Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/123253-mvc-as-a-choice/#findComment-637083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
langenf Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 please pardon my ignorance. They might want to sell this app is a product, in that case, i can use frameworks like cakephp to develop it?. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/123253-mvc-as-a-choice/#findComment-637266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Fire Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Depends, please pardon my ignorance. They might want to sell this app is a product, in that case, i can use frameworks like cakephp to develop it?. Depends, most of the framework i think are under MIT/BSD style licenses which does allow you to sell the app without much restriction but some of the framework use other libraries like symfony uses phpmailer which is under the LGPL license which you are still able to use in commercial applications but they do have more restriction and requirements to follow the license. Most PHP Frameworks are licensed under open source and use other open source code however you need to make sure you follow the licenses of all the libraries in the framework. The only open source license that is seems you would want to stay away from is GPL because with the license you MUST release the source code of your application. DISCLAIMER: I Am Not A Laywer and this is just my understanding of the open source license which may or may not be correct. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/123253-mvc-as-a-choice/#findComment-637434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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