The Little Guy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I have three videos, all uploaded from the same source. each of them have a different bit rate. I am trying to decide which bit rate to use for the rest of my videos. 1. http://dudeel.com/video/watch?v=FRq6lUwYw3W8E 2. http://dudeel.com/video/watch?v=Rj747hdyp13cP 3. http://dudeel.com/video/watch?v=4ixjz8ON8z1p Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 What ever bit rate you feel like having your site stream? It's your bandwidth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 What ever bit rate you feel like having your site stream? It's your bandwidth. I don't have a bandwidth limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 What ever bit rate you feel like having your site stream? It's your bandwidth. I don't have a bandwidth limit. Yes you do. There is a physical barrier on how fast the hardware can transfer the data. Anyone who think they can get unlimited bandwidth are ignorant. Do you think you can get "unlimited" for $5.95/month on your dreamhost account while huge sites like Youtube spend $1,000,000/month1? 1http://www.forbes.com/intelligentinfrastructure/2006/04/27/video-youtube-myspace_cx_df_0428video.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 What ever bit rate you feel like having your site stream? It's your bandwidth. I don't have a bandwidth limit. Yes you do. There is a physical barrier on how fast the hardware can transfer the data. Anyone who think they can get unlimited bandwidth are ignorant. Do you think you can get "unlimited" for $5.95/month on your dreamhost account while huge sites like Youtube spend $1,000,000/month1? 1http://www.forbes.com/intelligentinfrastructure/2006/04/27/video-youtube-myspace_cx_df_0428video.html I bet he has unlimited disk space too ;p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchl Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Well I do have both unlimited bandwidth and disk space... It's just this small print in TOS that limits the interesting ways I could use it... And yeah... limited access to database... Huh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 I don't have a bandwidth limit. Yes you do. There is a physical barrier on how fast the hardware can transfer the data. By bandwidth I mean the number of MB's from server to client. I do have a limit on CPU, RAM, and those things... At least they say that they will give me unlimited. They say that no matter how much I use I won't be charged more that what I pay per month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynewex Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I don't have a bandwidth limit. Yes you do. There is a physical barrier on how fast the hardware can transfer the data. By bandwidth I mean the number of MB's from server to client. I do have a limit on CPU, RAM, and those things... At least they say that they will give me unlimited. They say that no matter how much I use I won't be charged more that what I pay per month. Define: Overselling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Yeah well, seems like you forgot to read the fine print: http://dreamhost.com/unlimited.html "File upload / sharing / archive / backup / mirroring / distribution sites" and "Making your account resources available (whether for free or pay) to the general public" is not allowed. As far as I can tell, your site violates that. I believe you also once said that you provide a free host service and file upload service. Basically there are plenty of reasons for terminating your accounts. As I said: Do you think you can get "unlimited" for $5.95/month on your dreamhost account while huge sites like Youtube spend $1,000,000/month? They give you "unlimited" because the only types of sites that would use up a lot of diskspace and bandwidth are not allowed. They still earn money though because of all the gullible people who think that there exists a such thing as unlimited anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 File upload / sharing / archive / backup / mirroring / distribution sites I have a file hosting site, free php website hosting, videos, and have gotten technical support on all of them, and they didn't say anything about them violating any TOS. This whole page is just to announce to the <.1% of people who want to try and run free porn affiliate sites or anime video trading forums or host pirated rips of The Dark Knight on DreamHost that we're not having any. but in case they say something, then I will ask to go back to my regular hosting. So... In the case they don't say something, could we answer my original question? So lets say that I do have unlimited everything (other than CPU / RAM). As a client computer, which video would you rather connect to? The larger video with better quality, or the smaller video with poor quality, or the one in between with fair quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchl Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Why not all of them... You've got unlimited disk space after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynewex Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I have a file hosting site, free php website hosting, videos, and have gotten technical support on all of them, and they didn't say anything about them violating any TOS. They will once you start monopolizing server resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 I have a file hosting site, free php website hosting, videos, and have gotten technical support on all of them, and they didn't say anything about them violating any TOS. They will once you start monopolizing server resources. They will ask me to move to a Private Server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynewex Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I have a file hosting site, free php website hosting, videos, and have gotten technical support on all of them, and they didn't say anything about them violating any TOS. They will once you start monopolizing server resources. They will ask me to move to a Private Server. Exactly. Meaning that you're not getting unlimited bandwidth for the money that you're currently paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Exactly. Meaning that you're not getting unlimited bandwidth for the money that you're currently paying. I never said I was getting unlimited for what I am paying... You guy are. I just said I have unlimited. NO MORE ABOUT UNLIMITED THAT ISN'T WHAT THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerRobot Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Exactly. Meaning that you're not getting unlimited bandwidth for the money that you're currently paying. I never said I was getting unlimited for what I am paying... You guy are. I just said I have unlimited. NO MORE ABOUT UNLIMITED THAT ISN'T WHAT THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT! So does that mean you're saying you have unlimited bandwidth assuming you have unlimited money? Riiiiight. Anyway, don't you think you're thinking about this the wrong way? You should be considering the user's internet speeds and think what they will be capable of streaming and/or downloading in a reason time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynewex Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 The poor user always get forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I'd offer a low bandwidth version, and a high bandwidth version. Let the user pick what they want to view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Anyway, don't you think you're thinking about this the wrong way? You should be considering the user's internet speeds and think what they will be capable of streaming and/or downloading in a reason time. I did ask that on the previous page. I'd offer a low bandwidth version, and a high bandwidth version. Let the user pick what they want to view. I was possibly thinking that (which I may do). Another question (may or may not know) when you upload a video to youtube, do they keep the original file, or do they discard it after it uploads and converts to a flv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 It would seem like they are storing the files as they were uploaded. Otherwise they couldn't suddenly supply high quality and later HD versions of previously uploaded videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 that is what I thought, because I was wondering how they were able to convert videos to HD, but is it possible that only the new videos have an high quality version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 that is what I thought, because I was wondering how they were able to convert videos to HD, but is it possible that only the new videos have an high quality version? No, as I said, when they rolled it out, some new videos had it as well, so I'm quite sure that's not the case. On the DreamHost thing, I figured I might share the link to a blog post I made about it: http://degeberg.com/2008/12/dreamhost-to-infinity-and-beyond/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerRobot Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Excellent. I'm surprised you got a reply at all. It should be noted that dreamhost aren't alone in their unlimited offerings. While I cannot think of any off of the top of my head, I saw a lot of similar plans a couple years back. (Edit: For example, see this host) There used to be a fair few ISPs in the UK offering unlimited bandwidth. I'm guessing the office of fair trading got onto them about that, as I've not seen any recently. Edit 2: Seems i lied. BT are still offering this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 It should be noted that dreamhost aren't alone in their unlimited offerings. While I cannot think of any off of the top of my head, I saw a lot of similar plans a couple years back. Yeah, I'm aware of that, but alas I do not have enough times to write ∞ emails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mchl Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Another one's powweb I'm actually using their services, but that's mostly because they were able to give me better conditions than the previous host. I don't need ∞ GB of whatever, but I do need control panel that works and gives me the controls I want. Having python was a pleasant surprise, not having InnoDB was the unpleasant one. Can't have ∞. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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