ober Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 What an awful POS. So much bloat and it is SO FREAKING SLOW. I could rewrite one of our apps here at work in half the code and twice the speed in PHP. I don't even understand where they are connecting to the database or actually doing any database interactions. It must all be packed into DLLs or something. It's so frustrating! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 F it. I installed PHP on the server (they stupidly gave me admin access) and wrote what they wanted in 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Was this .NET, classic ASP, or something else altogether different? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 It was .NET. I've never gotten the hang of what needs to be included or how you link things or compile or whatever it is you have to do with that nightmare. Plus most of what I need to get at was apparently buried in some DLLs. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 To be fair, it's reasonable to expect that doing something in a language you have a lot of experience with will be faster than doing the same thing in a language you don't have a lot of experience in. Whether or not something is in a DLL should be irrelevant. That would be the case in many of the PHP extensions you use as well. I have 0 experience with .NET and ASP though, so I cannot really comment on the quality and efficiency of it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 It was .NET. I've never gotten the hang of what needs to be included or how you link things or compile or whatever it is you have to do with that nightmare. Plus most of what I need to get at was apparently buried in some DLLs. Ah, I see. Yeah, the ASP.NET page lifecycle is a bitch. I'm experiencing issues with it myself. DB stuff with it is weird. From what I've seen, the connection info is stored in the web.config file, but using that with SQL queries is still done within the code itself. Like: string query = "Select level, name, tpCost, dmgModifier, hitPenalty from DBHackerAttacks"; using (SqlConnection conn = new SqlConnection(ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings["GitSConnectionString1"].ConnectionString)) { SqlCommand cmd; SqlDataReader reader; cmd = new SqlCommand(query, conn); conn.Open(); reader = cmd.ExecuteReader(CommandBehavior.CloseConnection); while (reader.Read()) { HackerAttack hackerAttack = new HackerAttack(reader.GetInt32(0), reader.GetString(1), reader.GetInt32(2), reader.GetDouble(3), reader.GetDouble(4)); this.attacks.Add(hackerAttack.Level, hackerAttack); } } I'm not a big fan of its helper objects, like SqlReader. They're just awkward to use. Also, with SQLExpress, floats are actually stored as doubles within the db. That caused me a day or two worth of headaches. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Isn't a double just a float with double precision? How would that cause you an issue unless you have millions of entries and it you couldn't figure out why it used a lot more space than expected? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 To be fair, it's reasonable to expect that doing something in a language you have a lot of experience with will be faster than doing the same thing in a language you don't have a lot of experience in. Whether or not something is in a DLL should be irrelevant. That would be the case in many of the PHP extensions you use as well. I have 0 experience with .NET and ASP though, so I cannot really comment on the quality and efficiency of it. I agree that doing something in a language you're familiar with is much faster. But this was just ridiculous. And when I say everything was trapped in a DLL... well... there weren't ANY SQL queries in any of the pages I viewed and I couldn't find any classes that did the updates, so they must have compiled all DB updates/interaction into DLLs. I'm not talking about picking apart functions, I'm talking about normal interactions. No offense to people from India on these boards, but a group from India wrote the application and it sucks total balls. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Isn't a double just a float with double precision? How would that cause you an issue unless you have millions of entries and it you couldn't figure out why it used a lot more space than expected? Remember: C# is strongly typed. Using reader.GetFloat() when the data is stored in the db as a double (even though the column datatype is specified as a float) causes a lot of compiler errors. It doesn't want to do the implicit conversion from double to float because of the potential loss of data. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ah, yeah that makes sense (the error/issue that is). Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 To be fair, it's reasonable to expect that doing something in a language you have a lot of experience with will be faster than doing the same thing in a language you don't have a lot of experience in. Whether or not something is in a DLL should be irrelevant. That would be the case in many of the PHP extensions you use as well. I have 0 experience with .NET and ASP though, so I cannot really comment on the quality and efficiency of it. I agree that doing something in a language you're familiar with is much faster. But this was just ridiculous. And when I say everything was trapped in a DLL... well... there weren't ANY SQL queries in any of the pages I viewed and I couldn't find any classes that did the updates, so they must have compiled all DB updates/interaction into DLLs. I'm not talking about picking apart functions, I'm talking about normal interactions. No offense to people from India on these boards, but a group from India wrote the application and it sucks total balls. Holy...yeah, that's just ridiculous. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/166319-i-hate-aspx/#findComment-877309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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