redarrow Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I have recently done a survay on the use of javascript and using php.if you ar desining websites for personal use then javascipt is fun, but if you are designing a website for a client then forget it.out of 100,000 users on the internet only 10 persent use javascript so the ansaw to all javascript users is dont bover.as a desogner you have to be more open minded and get to no css in a more advance way and also use php to it's limits.the story is that a large company used the buzz term ajax to make a huge project but the company went bust due to the lack off users willing to enable javascript via there browser so my advise is forget it.good luck. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostfreak Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Hmm, I always thought it was the other way around. More close to 90 percent of them do use Javascript while 10 percent dont. Guess I was wrong. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Ummmm javascript is defaulty enabled... And I bet that more like 90/10 not 10/90 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 nope that where your all wrong defently 10 persent javascript. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown2005 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 wow thats quote interesting.. i thought javascript was used in like over 70% of all websites so it would be well received by users. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 that why i done the survay becouse my company went bust lola large browser company has also asared me that there browser wont be having nothink to do with javascript soon.they will only be support for flash.scary man................. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown2005 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 awww sorry to hear that.. wat did you do....? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 well afther all that i am currently trying to learn css in a advance way and only use php to get back on board dam lol............. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown2005 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 so wat ur site is totally down now then...? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 MySpace, Xanga, facebook, msn, hotmail, yahoo, gmail... All use parts of javascript. I dont believe you. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redarrow Posted August 11, 2006 Author Share Posted August 11, 2006 corbin that not true prove it.thay dont they use java not javascript. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 edit: gah that was long... you know how to look at page source i would guess Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 I don't believe this either, I think your figures are either the wrong way around, or your cross section of users were sourced on a JavaScript haters forum. You're saying that an estimated 90% of people that use the internet have disabled a piece of functionality in their browser that is switched on by default - I'd be supprised if 90% of the people that used the internet knew what JavaScript actually is... I also highly doubt that your company went bust because of the sole fact that you used JavaScript on your website. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote author=redarrow link=topic=103818.msg413670#msg413670 date=1155281809]that why i done the survay becouse my company went bust lola large browser company has also asared me that there browser wont be having nothink to do with javascript soon.they will only be support for flash.scary man.................[/quote]Hmmmm when ever you get back please tell me what browser company... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote author=corbin link=topic=103818.msg413697#msg413697 date=1155284108][quote author=redarrow link=topic=103818.msg413670#msg413670 date=1155281809]that why i done the survay becouse my company went bust lola large browser company has also asared me that there browser wont be having nothink to do with javascript soon.they will only be support for flash.scary man.................[/quote]Hmmmm when ever you get back please tell me what browser company...[/quote]It's obviously not one of 'the big 3', they'd be shooting themselves in the foot big time. And also ONLY support Flash out of the box? All of the browsers that I know of require Flash to be installed as a plug-in, and allow a lot more support than just Flash. Someone is 'aving you on mate. Oh, and you can't use CSS to fully replace JavaScript. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest huey4657 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Lies, damn lies and statistics... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-72987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 You cant do a lot of things with CSS that can be done with javascript... and i do mean A LOT of things... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-73533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
king arthur Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 A quick check through the visitor stats on one of my sites shows that out of 2260 visitors so far this month only 104 did not reveal client side info meaning they probably did not have javascript enabled. Less than 0.5% then.....and 24 of them were search bots! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-75219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 The actual stats for the javascript is thus:40% roughly don't use javascript60% roughtly do use javascriptout of the ones that do use javascript only a small portion of that are actual programmers like us, thus if your web page is orientated towards the programming community javascript might be a bad idea.That is actual stats taken from over 200,000 different websites, all including a wide vareity of topics. Link not availiable, took it from a microwave. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-75494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Where was this survey taken? I'd like to see that, because I don't really believe that 90% of the internet users have it disabled. Try look at this forum, it uses javascript too (like most other forum systems).Could the site be one of those that show up on this page: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22javascript+haters%22&btnG=Search Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-75785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.aspNo one has posted in 3 days... But I figure thats what redarrow saw the JS stats on... Notice it says 90% have it on not off. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-77141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Could be. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/17215-javascript-warning-ok/#findComment-77160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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