Jocka Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 We have the good PHP books but PHP isn't all we need to know to become as great as we can be.I for one want to being studying more into Linux, as I don't use it very much right now. The best way to learn (for me at least) is hands on so I got some linux software from offline. I haven't installed it yet though, I'm going to go buy an external harddrive for now (so I don't have to jump right on it).Anyway, I need a good book to learn linux with. I want to learn all the basics of linux and more advanced things that can be done by linux. Right now the basics will be fine. So a book for basic linux and a book for advanced linux.Also I'm planning to study ASP.net . I understand that vb.net can't be put on a linux machine? Either way my boss asks that I learn ASP. He wants to send me to some classes but I think it'd be better to buy a $50 book and let me learn myself than pay $600 to send me to a 3 day class where I'll forget everything the 5th day. I want to know basically everything I can about ASP.net . Of course let's start with the basics and move on from there.And any other books you might recommend? If a programming language is up and coming like PHP then please recommend it.ASP.net - LINUX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 For linux, eric published a good book. buy it, and read it. I have read it and liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocka Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 got a name to that book? lmao. I'll see if I can't find it before u reply :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Linux, Apache, MySQL, & PHP By Eric Rosebrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocka Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 is it very detailed on linux? Like commands and such as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neylitalo Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I, personally, think that reading a book is a highly inefficient way to go about learning an operating system, especially any Unix or Unix-based system. I learned TONS about Linux in general just by the Gentoo installation process, and once you're done installing it, you keep learning. I suggest, for anybody interested in learning about Linux, that you just download the distribution of choice, install it, and start asking questions. Google knows a lot, forums know a lot (search first!), and IRC channels know a lot. Never overlook the man pages, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewdr Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 <quote>Never overlook the man pages, either. </quote>Indeed. man topicyouwanttolookupIf your getting into Linux - you would be best to pick a linux distro - because some subtle things change. I choose debian - because there is a ton of info out there on it, great books and simple package management.If you use debian, here is all you need for a fully fledged apache2 php and mysql server:<code>apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 php4-cli php4-common php4-cgi php4-mysql</code>And if you want php5 - simply change the above to php5-common etc.Also - I kept writing a wiki with all the stuff I learned. My linux wiki is:http://wiki.kartbuilding.netIf you dont want to do much reinstalling - get a knoppix live CD. Its based on....guess what.... debian! Ubuntu is also based on debian. Therefore the package mangement (apt) is the same across all.Also - with regards to asp - chillisoft asp ran asp scripts on apache. This was a good few years ago however, and I dont know the current status and/or if it runs asp.net.Have fun.-steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocka Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 the linux I have us Unbuntu. I ordered it from their site. I just haven't installed it or anything. Like I said, I'm going to get an external harddrive so I don't go in head first.I learned almost everything from hands on but I still need to know commands to get things done. I've been studying some stuff online but haven't put it to use yet.Give me a break down from 1-10 of how difficult things are from the following (1 - impossible -- 10 - a baby could do it):Downloading /installing drivers for basic stuff (video card, modem *although I don't use it*, ethernet, etc)Download / installing drivers for new products (example, I bought a USB wireless adaptor I need installed on it)Getting programs like photoshop (as I understand, photoshop doesn't work on linux ?)Running a serverAnd feel free to add additional things you think I should know too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocka Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 ok I don't know if I want to study ASP anymore. Other than the fact that it's something else I can toss on my "skills" list, I don't know what good it'll do me.Can anyone give me a reason to learn ASP aside from "just to learn it". It doesn't seem to do anything that PHP can't do.. or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmanronald06 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Umm...I say forget it. I am being forced to take VB.Net/ASP class, and it sucks as a language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewdr Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 [quote]Downloading /installing drivers for basic stuff (video card, modem *although I don't use it*, ethernet, etc)[/quote]Depends on how new the hardware is. Also depends on if you want *ALL* of the same functionality, e.g. extra buttons on your keyboard etc. etc. But Id give this a 7 or 8.[quote]Download / installing drivers for new products (example, I bought a USB wireless adaptor I need installed on it)[/quote]If they have it as a gziped file, with a readme - 6 or 7.[quote]Getting programs like photoshop (as I understand, photoshop doesn't work on linux ?)[/quote]No - photoshop doesnt really work on linux. But where there is a will.....there is a way. Id give this a 3 - cause it will take a good bit of time to get these apps running.[quote]Running a server[/quote]Id give this a 8 or 9.Of course - it depends on how stable, secure etc. what services you want on it etc etc etc.Generally linux is built for servers - so unlike installing photoshop simialr apps - if you want apache2 on ubuntu (built on debian) either select it at the installer or:apt-get install apache2As for what know etc. etc. - and waiting for a magical "external hardrive" - dont wait for that - get vmware, install it on your pc. Pop a ubuntu cd into the drive, start the vmware virtual pc - and there you go - a full blown linux os where you can install away.-steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocka Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 nice.Right now my only worries is the usb adaptor. It's my only way to get online besides dial up and I HATE dialup. I'll look into that though. As far as I recall the usb came with a self install tool but I'll got to their website and see if it is supported by linux as well. See if I can find a way to install it.If I can't find a way to install it (or anything else for that matter) do you recommend any good sites I can browse to find drivers for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewdr Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 [quote] usb adaptor[/quote]LOL - usb adaptor yokie! Well I think you will be doing *very* well to get a linux driver for that.HOWEVER - if I think correct - if you use vmware - it will create a "virtual LAN adapter" for linux to use - and vmware will route all your linux traffic over your usb yokie on windows.Thats what Id go at. vmware is now free and 10-20megs - so that'd be my solution.-steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocka Posted November 28, 2006 Author Share Posted November 28, 2006 well im at work right now but i'm definatly going to go get that when i get home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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