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yeah it's definitley an HTML problem haha, I have no problem with PHP :)

<TD valign="top" height="85" background="images/index_04.gif">
<IMG SRC="images/index_03.gif" WIDTH=223 HEIGHT=85 ALT=""></TD>
</TR>
<TR>
<TD WIDTH="223" background="images/index_04.gif" valign="top" height="100%">
<table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="menu" height="100%">
<tr>
<td width="55"></td>
<td valign="top"><? include("menu.php"); ?><p></td>
</tr>
</table></TD>
</TR>
<tr>
<td colspan="2"><img src="images/bot.gif"></td>
</tr>
This may fix it

[code]<TD valign="top" height="85" background="images/index_04.gif"><IMG SRC="images/index_03.gif" WIDTH=223 HEIGHT=85 ALT=""></TD>
<TD rowspan=2 valign=top><? include("menu.php"); ?></TD>

  </TR>
  <TR>
      <TD WIDTH="223" background="images/index_04.gif" valign="top" height="100%">
        <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="menu" height="100%">
</table>
</TD>
  </TR>
<tr>
<td colspan="2"><img src="images/bot.gif"></td>
</tr>[/code]

You should put your include in the first row, <tr>, then give it a rowspan of 2 there, other wise it will valign to the top but of the row below.

Ray
Well it moved it up where you wanted it.  ;D
Point being you have to put your rowspan in the first row you want it to go in.

Just a simple example of the layout
[code]
<table border=1>
  <tr>
    <td>
      <table>
        <tr>
          <td>someinfoe here</td>
          <td>Some more stuff here</td>
        </tr>
      </table>
    </td>
    <td rowspan=2>how you doing</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>More first row column stuff here</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td colspan=2 align=center>Footer stuff here maybe</td>
  </tr>
</table>[/code]

Ray
That colspan="2" might come into play some where!!!

but MATE - the html!!! there is a closing html tag just after the form. Now I do not want to dive into this but you REALLY need to address this - get your structure sorted out - nest your code properly. This will REALLY help you identify problems.

Dare I suggest a move to tableless layout? there is so much html in there that is JUST for styling! this will make your page incredible slow to load.
If I'm reading this right, you want the menu on the right...."Guests, Home, About Us" etc etc to be valigned to the top? Is so, why not put that menu in a nested table of it's own.....nested in one table cell, and make that tablle valigned to the top...kinda like this.....

[code]
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="770">
<tr>
<td> main contents and all your other stuff in here</td>
<td valign="top"><table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
      <tr>
          <td>Guests</td>
      </tr>     
        <tr>
          <td>Home</td>
      </tr>
      <tr>
          <td>About Us</td>
      </tr>
      </table></td>
    </tr>
</table>

[/code]

Hope that helps...or perhaps I'm way off base for what you want
[quote]I can't have a tableless design... i need it to be graphical. Any other suggestions?[/quote]
Why on earth would a tableless layout stop you having a 'graphical'  layout?

I'll copy your code over in a minute and see if I can find the problem - will post back in a bit with your solution...
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