richie19rich77 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hi Everyone, Been trying to building a website for my local table tennis league, if it's any good I may see if they want to use it. at first I jumped in at the deep end doing loads of PHP, AJAX and JS. Have now decided to do the layout first and then develop the backend after. Not much too it at the mo, but is it worth carrying on and should I start over. Link is: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard.farthing/Working.html The main data will all be dynamic, allowing admin staff to only update there own html page. The current site I am trying to replace if it gets accepted is www.mtttl.co.uk. Thanks Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 you're on the right lines. it doesnt look too bad at all. (though to be brutally honest, even if you replaced the current site with the new one as it is, without even bothering to add content, it'd be a step up ) obviously there's not much to critique right now, but from what you say/what i see: 1, don't go down the ajax/javascript route. you'd be just another one of those people using it for no other reason aside from "just because it's there." It's a simple site, so keep it simple. If, later down the line, you REALLY see a need for it, then fine. 2, I reckon you could do alot better with the image of the ping pong player. it looks a bit grainy - and whilst the header in general needs a few tweaks anyway just to spruce it up, sorting that out would make things up top look a bit cleaner. Be interesting to see what it looks like with a bit of content, but as it is, it looks fine and definitely an improvement on the existing site... Good luck Mark Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-215681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitroware Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Ya, it looks really nice! After looking at theit current site, yours looks like a professional site. LOL Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-215796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcorlew Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I would have to echo Mark's comments, header image needs a little tweaking, but as long as you don't overdue all the content per-page ratio, I think you should have a solid site! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-217277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie19rich77 Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 I am going to start a fresh, been looking at some other sites and my design just looks to blocky. Just got going so not much on there, but the design is cleaner: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard.farthing/Untitled-1.HTML Only done the css for 1280x960 in IE7 for the time being, will do css for all resolutions once finalised on layout. Thanks for the coments, will reply once I have done the dynamic content. Thanks Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 wrong approach. Your code assumes that everyone uses their full screen width so regardless of how I adjust the width of my viewing window all I ever see is the 'too high' alert and unstyled content. And, using different CSS for different resolutions is going to be a maintenance problem for you. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie19rich77 Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 How would I get around this then, I see websites that say have a auto left and right margin and width of 800px. but then you have big borders in higher resolutions. Ok if I go back to the above of auto margins and 800 width, what is the most used res ? Does the design / layout look ok ? Thanks for the coments. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 I have no idea how it looks because all I can ever see is unstyled content following the 'too high alert'. http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/March/res.php - summary of many millions of visitors' browser sizes. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie19rich77 Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 Ok that should work for you know, I will have to re-think the css with the comenst you have made. Thanks Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 personally, i think the decision to start again is a bit of mistake - considering now you have these issues that you didnt have before, and your previous site was not bad - just needed a few tweaks. Oh well, good luck anyway. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie19rich77 Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 Sorted out the problems now, and have decided to build the site using 1024x768 res. Very happy with it, just have to do the dynamic content. Thanks for all your coments. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie19rich77 Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share Posted April 1, 2007 New page: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard.farthing/Main.html Will post back in about a week once I sort out some AJAX problems. Thanks Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-218882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbullmarky Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 ok now we're back to something that looks good. i was a bit worried you'd lost the plot when i saw the site before the CSS anyway. i will restate my point from earlier in this topic: 1, don't go down the ajax/javascript route. you'd be just another one of those people using it for no other reason aside from "just because it's there." It's a simple site, so keep it simple. If, later down the line, you REALLY see a need for it, then fine. I'd personally discourage you from using AJAX this way, for now at least. I prefer to look at AJAX as a tool that provides little quirks to a website (search results, autocomplete, form validation, etc) rather than something that provides an entire page of content for no good reason (i've been there and done that myself and these are just some of the issues i had). When you use it for smaller scale "widget" type stuff, it's easier to get it to degrade more favourably than just displaying a completely empty page. There are alot more further implications of using AJAX, such as breaking the 'back' button, etc, but I do believe that Google doesn't follow "anchors" - the type of links you're using in the nav with an 'onclick', so those pages maybe left completely out of search results. Also, whilst a small amount, users that don't have Javascript turned on won't be able to get your pages - it'd be a shame to dismiss these users over something that's not really needed. Most of the people who I find have JS turned off are the non-technical who just turn everything off and AV/Firewall themselves to the teeth without really knowing why. Correct me if I'm wrong, but table tennis is not really aiming itself at the technical types, so odds are you may find a few people who wont be able to get involved... Oh well. There's my £1.50 worth anyway. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-219056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I get a 404 error... Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-219436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie19rich77 Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share Posted April 2, 2007 Try now I had the page down while updating. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-219619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie19rich77 Posted April 4, 2007 Author Share Posted April 4, 2007 Site now moved to new host that allows PHP and MySQL. Host abit slow but works. http://richie19rich77.prohosts.org/Main.html Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-221585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 You rely too much on Javascript. If it is turned off the site doesn't work. Also, people cannot bookmark specific subpages as the URL never changes due to that all pages are loaded through XmlHttpRequest in Javascript. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/44402-please-give-me-stick/#findComment-221915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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