d22552000 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 What are the pros / cons of running apache through lamp, or wamp... or doing it normally through the installation of each 1 by 1... I heard that LAMP doesnt do crons properly and I heard that WAMP sometimes doesnt even start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 I heard that LAMP doesnt do crons properly and I heard that WAMP sometimes doesnt even start... Windows does not support cron so neither does any WAMP solution. As for a LAMP solution not doing crons.... what exactly are you talking about? Cron is a Linux tool. Now... with that out of the way, I'll assume your talking about the prepackged *amp solutions. Ive never used them myself, but I'm a Linux type guy and I like to figure things out from scratch. I could see the pro's being that they let php developers worry about developing php. you don't have to worry about configuring this and that, just write your code. Of course, this would also be considered a con by some people (myself included). I like to know exactly how / where my environment was installed. But then again (being the Linux type guy), thats what I like doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 idk... I might use wamp for my EXTERNAL servers so I don't have to manually set it up.. but for my internal server imma continue with my apache, oracle, mssql, mysql, php, asp, and python setup... uh,... im using... A MOM PAP lol. Apache Mysql Oracle Mssql PHP Asp Python AHAHA A MOM POP!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Asp does not run on apache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 ya, i can. I am ust ActiveASP as a substitute. It sitll works fine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewdr Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Because its much easier to install and update on linux Here is how to install LAMP software on ubuntu/debian: apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient12-dev apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli php5-common php5-cgi php5-mysql Here is how to get security updates: apt-get update apt-get upgrade Piece of Cake! -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 wow, thats ALOT easier than apahce,php,mysql on windows -,- the apache=>php part is a bitch. so uh... how do I instlal linux? I have a debian livecd but what is the konsole command to install it to the HD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadion Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 U can always use VMWare Workstation for virtually running linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 again I can only find livecd's and they have a konsole command to instlal but it wont work. neither will starting install.sh from the bin line, but im not too good at linux so idk if I did it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Ive never installed Debian via a LiveCD, but you might try http://debian.org, there are complete install instructions allong with many other helpfull documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 omfg help mee!!! my server is down cause php unexpectedly quit working.. I had to rewrite my apahce conf file and that screwed everythign up. now when I add teh php lines to make it a MODULE it screws up and farts -,-. WONT START APACHE. I heard that if you start apache from some command line something you get the output of parsing the conf files/// how do I do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effigy Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 1. Check your error log. 2. Run httpd with the -t option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewdr Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Ubuntu has a live cd, and its has an apt package based system the same as debian. As mentioned previously, it runs nicely in VMware. I installed debian on VMware and use it for my secondard dns and mail. -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 I noticed that in btoh vmware and msvpc the mouse is OFFICIALLY UNSUPORTED in all linux distros. You have to fix it yourself -,- or run linux with -<KERNEL> expert | noloopbackx1687341 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadion Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I noticed that in btoh vmware and msvpc the mouse is OFFICIALLY UNSUPORTED in all linux distros. You have to fix it yourself -,- or run linux with -<KERNEL> expert | noloopbackx1687341 What do u mean with mouse unsupported? Ive tried FC 4, FC 6 and Red Hat Enterprise (at work) and had no problem, plus the last two support vmware tools for smooth mouse transition between os's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 well I only had suse fuss about hte mouse in vmware, but all linux ditsos running under MVPC don't work. Pretty simple. They run find and boot find but if you don't start with those above things, it doenst capture your mouse pointer. so your mouse can move, in yoru host os but in the guest os it doents know you HAVE a mouse. Damn M$ (MicroShit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Why bother using any of these virtual machines? Just install Linux and enjoy the freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadion Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Why bother using any of these virtual machines? Just install Linux and enjoy the freedom. Sounds like a commercial quote lol. Anyway guess ure right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d22552000 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Share Posted September 5, 2007 I started to get debian before I noticed it was 21 CD's or 3 (1/2) DVD's (the half dvd is the update). I decided to get Ubuntu Linux 7.04 Server *Yes I know 7.10 is current version but I already had 7.04 downloaded) I hear it has LAMP installation right after the minimal step I was reading the install documentation (VERY SPARSE) on: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/installing-from-cd.html. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trq Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 You can do a net install of debian, should be 1 cd. Anywho... I gues Ubuntu is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewdr Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Yes - the net install of Debian works sweet. Its only ~180MB for the base OS. You just use the magic of apt afterwards for whatever you want. -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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