Ninjakreborn
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Ah, thanks that was very helpful. I have, as of yet been putting off OOP, until a few more programming concepts come to me, some specific programming related structures still mystify me. For instance a classified ad system, the logic behind it always confused me, but when I built 2 smaller ones, I now understand how they work, and there not that hard to program Cms I am still understanding the concept for, as for right now, all I can really do along the lines of a cms, is something like create a table called the name of the page, an id, header and text, and allow them to add/edit/delete sections of text from a page. Now there is one main one I am trying to learn, I feel after I do it, which is making a cms for moondancedesign.com in my spare time. I need to allow her to add/remove pictures, but that also involves creating a page for it to show the image along wtih pricing information, plus putting it in the right gallery, plus created a seperate page with the paypal form for submitting, adn dynamically create all of that, or delete all of that, based on whether she enters a new one or deletes one. IT's going to be huge, but when I have time, and when I do it, then cms's themselves will be understood by me. AS far as the other languages, I am not tackling anything now, and the advice you gave was appreciated, that will help me a lot in the future. I am goign to learn some more programming concepts, get better at photoshop, design layout, graphic design, and content writing. Then I will move onto learning oop, and classes, and other stuff like that. I still have a lot of problems with advanced file handling, it's just a learning process, I am taking it one step at a time and seeing how it goes. I have learnt a lot, I have learnt that I may not know everything I want, but I can slowly learning, so I am working on it. With the other advanced languages, I will look through some, and play with them And what was this about doing flash with javascript????
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You can always make your code portable. You would want to pull it out and test it in a few servers. You needed to create a txt file with a database dump, so people can create the database they need to go along with it You also could probably stand creating a portable php.ini file with the settings that are required set. You could put a note at the top which ones are required, and when they come to them in the php.ini file, just set comments beside them saying required too. This will solved a lot of the issues with compatibility, and making it more portable, and the database dump, allows them to have the database information to create a database. As far as cross server issues, if you test it in 5-6 windows, and linux systems, and any time you run into problems, build in some fixes that work for that system, when the whole thing works on 10-15 servers, then you should be fine. Then just put a txt file with the required php version, and mysql version, along with documentation on how to install it into the server, or web host server then zip everything up, and your ready to go. It is obvious however, with any portable program, they are going to have some sort of web server, with the required version of php, with mysql installed on the server of the required version, but this goes without saying. It would work on most web hosts too, if they accepted php.ini, and sometimes your program might require htaccess to run right, you have to figure out a windows alternative on anything in htaccess, to make it compatible with windows as well.
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Ok, I am working on that project to try and do within a very quick period of time, as I said in another post I have until wednesday. Now, I have 2 pages done, part of the system is finished, and I ran into a few walls, and don't know where to go from here. Program1.php [code]<?php session_start(); ?> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <title>Hasbadservice</title> </head> <body> <h4>Program Start</h4> <p>All Fields Required</p> <form name="program1" id="program1" action="program2.php" method="post"> <label for="username">Username:</label> <input name="username" id="username" type="text" maxlength="150" value="<?php echo stripslashes($_GET['username']); ?>" /><br /> <label for="email">Email Address:</label> <input name="email" id="email" type="text" maxlength="150" value="<?php echo stripslashes($_GET['email']); ?>" /><br /> <label for="verifyemail">Verify Email:</label> <input name="verifyemail" id="verifyemail" type="text" maxlength="150" value="<?php echo stripslashes($_GET['verifyemail']); ?>" /><br /> <label for="password">Password:</label> <input name="password" id="password" type="password" maxlength="150" /><br /> <label for="vpass">Verify Password:</label> <input name="vpass" id="vpass" type="password" maxlength="150" /><br /> <label for="sdn">Requested Sub Domain:</label> <input name="sdn" id="sdn" type="text" maxlength="255" value="<?php echo stripslashes($_GET['subdomain']); ?>" /><br /> <input name="submit" id="submit" type="submit" value="continue" /> </form> </body> </html>[/code] program2.php [code]<?php session_start(); // db connection info mysql_connect("localhost", "#####", "#####"); mysql_select_db("#####"); ?> <?php // set errorhandler to blank $errorhandler = ""; $username = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['username']); $password = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['password']); $vpass = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['vpass']); $email = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['email']); $verifyemail = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['verifyemail']); $subdomain = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['sdn']); // validation, and checking for duplicates in database if ($username == "") { $errorhandler .= "The username was left blank.<br />"; } if ($password == "") { $errorhandler .= "The password was left blank.<br />"; } if ($password != $vpass) { $errorhandler .= "The password fields don't match.<br />"; } if ($email == "") { $errorhandler .= "The email was left blank.<br />"; }else { $selectemail = "SELECT * FROM userinfo WHERE email = '$email';"; $queryemail = mysql_query($selectemail); if ($rowemail = mysql_fetch_array($queryemail)) { $errorhandler .= "The email already exists in the database, please use another one.<br />"; } } if ($verifyemail != $email) { $errorhandler .= "The email addresses don't match.<br />"; } if ($subdomain == "") { $errorhandler .= "The subdomain was left blank.<br />"; }else { $selectsn = "SELECT * FROM subdomain WHERE subdomainname = '$subdomain';"; $querysn = mysql_query($selectsn); if ($rowsn = mysql_fetch_array($querysn)) { $errorhandler .= "That domain name exists already. Please choose pick another one.<br />"; } } // display any errors, with link to fix them if ($errorhandler != "") { echo "<span style=\"color:red;\">"; echo $errorhandler; echo "</span>"; echo "<a href=\"program1.php?username={$username}&email={$email}&verifyemail={$verifyemail}&subdomain={$subdomain}\" title=\"Return to page 1\">Return To Page One</a>"; } // check for errorhandler, if empty continue with program if ($errorhandler == "") { // set sessions $_SESSION['username'] = $username; $_SESSION['password'] = md5($password); $_SESSION['email'] = $email; $_SESSION['subdomain'] = $subdomain; $_SESSION['controller'] = true; // display message ?> <p>The registration so far was successfully. Please choose one of the following links to either continue on with registration, or exit out of registration completely.</p> <?php // show links echo "<a href=\"program3.php\" title=\"Continue\">Continue</a>"; echo "<br />"; echo "<a href=\"exit.php\" title=\"Exit\">Exit</a>"; } ?>[/code] Now I am ready to start up program3.php everything is tested so far, and it all works, as I develop other parts it may need to be tweaked, or when I build in new features. But so far everything works out properly. Now i am onto program3.php but ran into some problems, since he is in a hurry to just get it started, I wasn't going to style the pages I am having 2 pages template1.php template2.php they are basic pages, that have no design, just basic xhtml markup(later designs will be built into them, more template pages added, and even search engine optimization done with them as they are created in order to make them all search engine friendly) I am currently running into a few problems, I am stuck on. 1. I have hte database schema already totally worked out. [quote]Database schema [b]userinfo[/b] userid - (int(30), Auto Inc, Primary Id) username – (varchar(200)) Password – (varchar(100)) Emailaddress – (varchar(100)) subdomainname – (varchar(255)) [b]subdomain[/b] name exactpath userid (Association purposes) [/quote] That is the database I know I have to make modifications, because I have to build a small cms into the templates page(get to that in a minute) Now that I have given you all my information, here are the problems I am having difficulties with. Problem 1- I don't understand how to make the next part work. I need to make it to where all the information from the program2.php page, which is all put in a session, so saving state is already taken care of. Now when it comes time to get to program3.php I have to allow them to check which template. I don't understand this whole process, and the templates have to have a cms built in somehow. Like they choose the template, then type in the text that will appear in the template The php does the rest. So I was thinking of having the templates pictures side by side, with radial buttons below them, this could be how they choose one, then a text field for the cms. I don't understand however, how I can do this. I have to have a basic template1.php and template2.php with what I want on it, and a cms built into it, but I don't understand how there going to interact. because the basic template1.php and template2.php have to be remained untouch, while another duplicate page, named index.php each time. The other thing I am not getting is, they have to choose a template, and choose text, then they go to view there results, like a picture or something of there results, they they pay through paypal, then with paypals IPN "Instant Payment Notification" I have to take that information, and 1. create the subdomain 2. Database the user information 3. Create the database information for the created sub-domain 4. Move the template that was created, over into the subdomain, and somehow associate them within the database. because when they log in there admin later, they have to be able to edit there cms. Any ideas on general theory, something to point me in the right direction??
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Well I am not worried about learning them, I was just trying to clarify some background information on them. ALl the languages I looked at so far, for awhile, I saw that it would take some time to memorize syntax, and there all about the same. I looked at a ruby on rails framework, and I actually quite easily understood it, so ruby isn't harder to learn than php. I have actually started up some basic asp, jsp,and coldfusion for fun. No I don't intend to learn really, anything other than my current language, but I am learning About, the general ideas behind other languages, just for personal knowledge purposes. Also some basic syntax, with stuff like asp, jsp, I didn't mess with them much, but I did start basic form validation and processing, and it was no harder than doing it with php, just something fun I was doing when I had some spare time. OTher languages, like flash for instance, I am going to learn it later, I might start dabbling with C++, or C# as a hobby. Just mostly stuff for fun, for now, and see where that kind of stuff takes me. JSON, and Python, I have heard a lot of good things about. As for ruby on rails, I am 100% I am going to attempt using a few ruby on rails frameworks, and see how those sites come together, for experimental purposes, it wouldn't be that hard to work out, and do custom programming on, once I pick up a little ruby.
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ah ok, so I looked up on json, and saw python and checked on it. In the world of web development would htey be worth learning, or can I do all the same things with php, What would those 2 actually be better at.
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I don't like the name, I see mysql errors on the homepage, top left. The design itself, I don't particularly like the color combination, and i never liked a welcome page then the website. But the box layout looks good, the coloring isn't actually that bad to me, but you could probably come up with a better one. I don't like the idea behind the site, There are a few other things I don't like about it it's done in tables it uses frames it's not validated no external css, atleast for that second page, most of your page is css on that page, you should move that to an external style sheet and validate it.
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What is json then is it something that is worth learning and I was asking about c+, I had heard of it before, it must be short for c++, or that must be what they mean when they say it.
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Ok, I will do that, post it here, get advice on it, and go from there. Thanks so far.
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so C+ isn't a language. So would it be possible for me to study C++ for building games, and still do websites. Or is building games something different, one person can sit down within a timeframe and build any website but can someone sit down a program a game, as a 1 person, or does that have to be a huge team effort, with a huge budget?
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Is php more powerful than most languages. I set down and played with a few of the languages below, and I liked the syntax on perl, a lot, and I played with the java ideas some. I noticed it wouldn't be that hard to pick up other languages after php, but I wanted to know something. 1 time I heard of someone building a cms in c++, making the website cms 10 times more powerful than php(that's what they said). If this is so, would any of the following languages help me in the world of web development perl, java, json, c+, C++, C#, .net I was also really wondering something else What languages go into building console games, like For instance Xbox, playstation, ps2, ps3, x-box360, gamecude, dreamcase What languages are used to build all of those and computer games, what languages are used to build those when I got the godfather for the x-box, limited edition, I heard something, they were speaking of the black hand control scheme, the idea they used behind the controls. The programmer said from a programming stand point that was hard to program, what kind of languages go into console games. What about servers as well, like for instance the online games world of warcraft, fairlyand, supreme destiny, conquer online, ex-cetera, what languages are used to make those, and to build, and mantain the servers they run on?
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I will keep that in mind. When I thought about it, he said he just wants it functional, that's why I told him give me until wednesday. He is also upset, it has in actuallity been 2 or almost 3 weeks now, but he never sent the specs at first, he delayed in getting back to me about the layout because he was at work, and other tthings, so this week he all of a sudden decides he wants to work like lightning on it.
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then more like 20 hours total. 10 hours per day, 2 days. So yes that was a typo, it would actually be 20 hours total working. Maybe 3 days, I told him give me until wednesday, and I would see what I can do, that is 30 hours, minus 5 hours per day for other projects, that's 15 hours total. I doubt it but it's worth a shot, he atleast wants most of it operational by then.
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I meant 72 hours.
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Thanks, I am sending him these comments, I wanted some backing from some other programmers, especially ones I trust, thanks.
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I had someone who wanted me to build a site, I had an argument with him, he thought it could be programmed in 2 days. Can the following, by any of you, be programmed in 2 days. I was looking at around a week. I built all the programming behind www.thecampussource.com in 2 weeks, the design isn't great, but it' has a huge backend/programming. It took me 2 weeks, I was figuring I was knowing my programming by now, he said he programmed a lot in the past, I don't doubt it, but he said he refused to believe this was difficult in any way. Am I missing something or is he missing something Here is the rough plan I sent him, he said it would take 2 days to program. [quote]Ok, here is a run down so you can understand what all I am doing 1. Homepage- This has no programming (subpage contact us), basic programming to validate and email the form to your email address. 2. User registration(domain authorization) system. This is going to be pretty straightforward, in order to have easy error handling througout the process, I am registering sessions throughout that whole process, so the orders go smoothly, then I can easily have my program memorize the idea behind the template that was chosen, and how to work with that template when the time comes. 3. I have 1 sign up page, they choose there username, verify username, password, verifypassword, emailaddress, verify email address, requested sub-domain 4. I run validation and make sure everything is in order, check that the username/emailaddress doesn’t already exist, and check that the sub-domain hasn’t already been created. 5. I pass all of that on to whatever is the next page, here they choose a template idea, and it changes over the template, and automatically generates (using php), a logo for them, in a default fonttype, for the price you have offered me, I can only let them choose between 1-2 fonts for the logo, because that is the difficult part. 6. They are also allowed to choose the text they want, as well as any headers. on the next page, this is all put within the template, for them to view, then if they choose, there they can click make more changes or confirm, at that point everything is passed to paypal 7. (I NEED pricing information from you) 8. Here they pay, paypal clears it, I create the sub-domain and user account when paypal comes back with the information. At this point everything works out, and it’s all done with, they have there registered account. Then it will email them a link to the admin area, and there username and password for rememberance, then they can login, there they can edit a text only edit view, or an xhtml edit view, if I can make that happen, if it’s easy I will also allow them to do some minor editing to the css file at that point, like change font styles or something similar. I will also automatically generate the proper keywords for it to be search engine ready when I submit your site then, all sub-domains will start getting indexed as well, giving them an extra reason to do so. Like isawesome or something.com do you want them to be able to have there own natural url associated with the one they picked, like show there’s on there sub-domain website, isreallyawesome.com ends up having that in there, if so I need to record there domain name as well.[/quote]
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honestly, I like it, except for the color, the layout itself, aside from color isnt' bad, except the dude standing there.
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That's actually what I have been wanting to do the most lately. Someone to do 2 things 1. Make the logo's 2. Make the layouts in photoshop cs2. THat is what I have been wanting, then when I get projects, I can "try" and learn some about doing the design, and logo, then when I run into walls turn it over to my guy. Over time I leanr, and still get the stuff done, which is what I want, but I haven't found anyone yet, and I don't know if I will, but I am trying. It has to be someone I get along with, someoen who is so good at design and logo's that he doesn't mind working for me for cheaper, than normal. Maybe even occassionally doing me personal favors, I have other people who will. OR someone who I can promise to help programming work for free, and for him to return the favor sometimes. I haven't found anyone yet, your advice isn't being discarded, I am trying my hardest to follow that advice, a few people have told me that on here, and I would like to find someone, that would be nice. Until then I have to struggle to do my own designs, and use templates when I have too.
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[quote]Well, if you haven't got the time, money, resources, etc., to create your own, then templates are a good way to go. However, there are downsides. They can be very expensive (so expensive as to justify spending the money to have someone create one for you), and don't usually follow good design techniques. Sure, they look good - but they're usually exclusively tables and images, so they can be rather hard to work with.[/quote] Css only templates, and yes they seem to take a long time to set up. [quote]Oh come on, guys, don't be snobs. How many of you ALWAYS start every single page, tag, code from scratch and don't recycle even one snippet? There are some good, free, validated css-xhtml templates out there for you start from to either reverse engineer or modify - for the layouts, not the design and style. If I use a pre-made template, I do it because the layout is stable, the code is clean and it looks like the author used some good techniques (like floating cross-browser/IE layout without any hacks or rounded corners using css and no graphics). Any that have some background graphics, I will be changing in photoshop to suit my own project as well as the actual styles, anyway. If you look at some of the xhtml-css (only) templates here, you will find submissions by quite a few amazing css gurus. http://www.ex-designz.net/template/ But stay away from the other templates (like Dreamweaver, flash, etc.) there, because they are indeed graphic heavy tag bloated table based stuff. In particular, look for the template "a bit liquid". It is a brilliant design that is completely fluid and stable in all IEs and doesn't use a single hack.[/quote] No-one so far has been snobs, some people like being original. For me it's programming, all of my programming is custom, I reuse my own code, but that's it. [quote]I think you need to think about what you're saying. Considering a design from basic layout is not using a template. Going to templatemonster.com and downloading a template and tossing in content is what I call using a template. Reusable code is something completely different. But, since you asked, I generally change everything from site to site with the exception of certain things, for example an event calendar. [/quote] For a template I mean something different. Get a template, for the general design itself, color scheme and everything. Then taking, recoding the css/xhtml, like that. I would even consider a template, just getting a layout in photoshop, that I can do all the coding for. Just like a logo, and a layout in a psd file, that would be a good template to me. [quote]Yeah, actually that's true. It isn't really "using" a template. It is getting ideas fromthem to create my own. Thinking about it further, I basically do it just to give me a broader range of design "ideas" and to start with a conceptual representation phase time saving shortcut. It still takes me almost as long to modify and personalize the css "templates" I've downloaded, and I only look at the graphic ideas included, then make my own on top of them in photoshop to keep the size to the original before really personalizing it all. But, again, I think that's what businessman332211 is looking for, as well. A creative ideas jumpstart. For me, what it all comes down to, as well, is that I always want to learn new ways to do old things. Not having the time or money to read all the books on the subjects, I prefer the reverse engineering technique. Taking it apart to see how something was done, then putting it back together my own way. Graphics, for instance, is a real rough point for me because for years I was required to translate our "art director's" Photoshop conceptions to the web. This made for very heavy pages with little to no text. So I always look for simpler ways to make small snips of the graphic repeat. It was rough in the Quirks mode table only Dreamweaver days. But for the past 2 years amazing things are done with css (thanks to sites like csszengarden and alistapart). As an example, on these two designs I used techniques and css from a few sheets I have downloaded including some of the old csszengarden for text header tags to work at tag level behind a graphic; I even kept the same names they used (though I should change them since the css is 99% my own now anyway). They look nothing whatsoever like the original designs and the graphics are all new: http://www.jhrenovations.com/about.html http://bluesmandeluxe.com/ae/acidexchange.html As a matter of fact, the above gave me the idea to try an animated gif from the external css as a div background, instead of the flash my friends wanted me to use. So USING templates is certainly not what I do, or recommend ... but downloading them, learning from them and getting ideas for your own design schemes I certainly recommend[/quote] It's a little bit different than that. I take the template, and change the graphics of course, and recode it. What I just wanted, as I mentioned above, is nothing but a psd, to help me avoid the creative process itself. [quote]What kind of templates are we talking about? Do you mean download a pre-made template (layout) or do you mean using a template system in your code?[/quote] SEe I always have more fun just coding the layout, and coming up with ideas. I wish I knew someone really good at graphic design, who could create layout ideas, and logo's in photoshop that actually looked good, sort of like a partner. I can create the layouts/logo's but I want to be able to learn the graphic design, design elements at my own pace, over a longer period of time than being orce to learn it all at once, and with a partner, or a collection of good templates, I could continue on my process, just learning as I want, and just give people free/cheap prices, when I am working on something for them I don't know that well, to stimulate my learning more.
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I think I have been making a mistake this whole time, I noticed something, I looked at the old post I had on my website www.freelancebusinessman.com I saw a lot of the reasons people said they didn't like that, I don't need a new design, everything, everyone mentioned I can fix, I have been doing that for awhile now, I am rewriting all the text for it, I have already deleted a hell of a lot of pages, rewrote huge sections, recoded some of it, removed lots of useless code, recoding some more of the css, and removing all validation, I am going to start following my ethics even heavier, I have been going through now, and checking hte source, making sure my code is clean, and well commented. I am rewriting almost everything on the site, I saw jcombs had actually put a post about my site, he put a screenshot of things he didn't like about my site, I am going through and fixing all of those, i am fixing my logo so it's not blurry. Once everything on those lists are done, I will repost for critique. Then I am going back to moondancedesign.com and doing everything that I saw on that list, to make it better. I have the answers I just am not using them, I am getting all the problems fixed with all my current websites on my portfolio. As for my own, I am doing everything everyone suggested, then getting some new ideas, I am totally redoing my entire business structure, I have rewritten a lot on my site already, I am still rewriting somet tonight, tomorrow, and this week, until I get everything on that list off.
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No, I am starting to think my problem is I am trying to please people too much. I will admit I wasn't the best designer, graphic designer, whatever you want to call it. But I have learnt my way around photoshop, I have seen graphic designers, who program. I have seen programmers who graphic design. I was totally happy with my site, 100%, and I started doubting myself because hte people here, see to not like me specifically. I looked over all the critique boards, never does anyone get as bad as a critique as mine. When I sit down and design something that is good everyone thinks it sucks, when I see one's that are 2-3 times worse in the critique forums. This is useless. THe first time I built my site, i Had ton's of clients say they liked my site, that I know for a fact, I have had plenty of people, I am making some false issue, trying to please people who are unpleasable. I try my hardest, but screw it, I am going back to my old design, my old layout, my old logo. It got attention, my website got responses, and it worked. I started doubting it when some random person said it looked like shit on www.purepwnage.com, and I saw all the negative critiques on it. I don't understnad what you people have against me, and at this point I don't care anymore. Every site I ever built was loved, by the person it was built for. All of them had great comments about it, I may have had aways to go, but no-one complained. www.thecampussource.com - the guy's mom said it was going to make me famous, the design was there idea, 1 person outside phpfreaks said it could use a redesign, everyone else loved it. www.elostandfound.info - the idea behind the site itself may not sell, but it was her idea, she loved the site when I was done, and so was everyone that was on it, except for the grammer, saying I need text training or something, no big deal, I start studying english more, and getting better with sentence structure, it's something I can do in my spare time. www.funnyemailforwards - dude loved the site, I didn't design it, I just programmed/coded behind someone else he already had do the design www.moondancedesign.com - she loved the site, more than ever, and she got nothing but comments about it www.freelancebusinessman.com - I liked my site, every client I ever had, liked my website. I loved my own website more than ever, after I made that re-design, my clientel literally tripled, and started booming with 1k plus projects. I don't know what I did good about it, or what I did bad, but almost every person I ask outside of php freaks like it, except one friend of mine, and he is extra, extra, extra picky. You guys have helped me with a lot of things. I rose to the top of php and databasing thanks to the people here, I can program php/mysql with the best of them. I can even jump to a new database sytem, give me one hour, and I can run it like I run mysql, thanks to the people who helped me learn. To tell you the truth, awhile back I tried programming, just for a few hours, asp, jsp, and coldfusion, and I started learning some of the syntax, I can already do basic stuff with any of those languages, because hte people here conditioned me to be a programmer, I learnt from the best. In some ways you people made me where I am today, in other ways the people here hold me back. As I said I see websites in the critique far worse than any I have ever built, and people that critique mine go around say, it looks good, you could do this, this, maybe this, but other than that I like it. Then when mine hits the forum, or any I have built, it's always something horrible. I don't get it. I am confident in my abilities, I know I can do a logo, I know I can make a site design, layout, I know I can code one, but what made me have a hard time these past few days, was I was trying to impress the people here, and I think I have to stop doing that from now on, and only listen to constructive criticism. I know you people have given me very good advice about logo's but what aggravates me, is no matter how good I do, or what direction I go, I am doing something wrong, or something that is totally off track. It wouldn't matter, no logo, no theme I came up with would be good enough to impress the people here, and unfortunately, that's the only reason I was redesigning my site. If you asked me if I was happy with it, yes very. I needed to change a few style related elements, maybe even redo the color scheme. Maybe fix up the logo some, but even then you people will think my site sucks. The ONLY reason Iw orked almost my whole weekend, was because I wanted to come up with something to truly impress the peolpe here, and only some people Andy, akitchen, obsidian, the number guy, ober(specifically). I look up to some of you more than you can imagine, all I have tried to do was impress a few select people here today, but nothing I do comes close. If you aske dme today, am I happy with my current website, yes I am, so are my clients, and most people in general I ask, except people on php freaks, and a few people who jsut think it sucks for some reason. If you asked me if I like my current logo, yes, and everyone said they loved my logo. When I tried to chagne it, almost every client I had told me that THey liked the old one. It was a little blurry, and I didn't notice so I fixed it. Andy- you have made me learn faster than I acn imagine, in all things, most of your criticism, is helpful, and nowhere near destructive, but some of the stuff you say, makes me feel I could never make something you considered looked good number guy- the critique on moondancedesign.com was great, I am still going to go through and do as much of what you suggested as you acnned, because you helpe dme make it better, you showed me it was good, it just needed some work, you didn't totally destroy it. wildteen, the god of css, if it hadn't of been for you totally coding layouts for me sometimes, I wouldn't know half of what I know now. obsidian - lately, I have been looking up to almsot everything you said, and trying my hardest to impress you in my work, but I always fall short, you offer very good advice, but again nothing I do makes you actually sit down and say good job. You offer helpful criticism, but sometimes I feel that I can't make you happy with my work, that's how I feel with a lot of you ober - I look up to you almost most of all, from when I first started coming here, I have always wanted to come up with something that impressed you, but I have yet to succeeded. Fenway- the god of databasing, you have helped me through databasing for a long time, and your one of the few people who have built me up emotionally. You are the one that made me feel I could do anythign with databasing. Because you didn't put me down when I was learning, at all, you even saw me sometimes trying to help someone, you didn't ocme in saying I was wrong, you stepped in and would say businessman is right, or good job(type of thing), or come in and say I forgot something, you always built me up in a positive way. barand- you have never put anythign I have done down, offered lot's of php advice, and helped me get better, you ever said a few times, that I was making good progress jcombs - I htink you sometimes have a very, very rude personallity, especially in that post with that person where you and them were arguing, but you are the god of design. I have looked up to your design advice a lot, you don't help me advice wise that often, because you just come in, say some rude stuff and leave, but looking at the sites you have built, has given me a lot of drive and determination. other people I forgot- some helped me, some hurt more than helped I don't really know, I know I decided to keep my old site, I decided I can't keep trying to impress the people here, it is something I have wanted to do since I started but never was able to accomplish unfortunately, it will be a few years until I am able too. IF that's the way it has to be then fine. I am doing a few things, I am rewriting all text on my website, gogin through that old critique, and changing what is easily changed, and trying some ideas that were offered. I am going to rewrite all teh tetx on the whole thing, deleting and changing a few pages, just doing some stuff to try and make it better, I might even get brave enough to try antoher color scheme, but I can't keep trying to impress people, I have a lot of projects to do, I wish I could have, I wish I could have impressed everyone I mentioned here, maybe a few I forgot, but I won't be able too, that's what is so damn frustrating.