paulman888888 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 OK first off: i know this is the wrong section. But its the only place i might get an answer. Now for the question. I would like a qualification that i can put on my CV. But where can i get one? everywhere i look you can get a certificate but that's not recognized by most employers Thankyou Paul Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadion Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 A certificate on what? If it's PHP then the ZCE (Zend Certified Engineer) Certificate is the right one and im sure most employees will recognize, or at least learn to recognize it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-613496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildteen88 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I think most employers go more on experience than qualifications, however I think the closet is the Zend Certification. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-613498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
448191 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 As a ZCE I can tell you it does help. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-613511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 OK first off: i know this is the wrong section. But its the only place i might get an answer. Now for the question. I would like a qualification that i can put on my CV. But where can i get one? everywhere i look you can get a certificate but that's not recognized by most employers Thankyou Paul Whoa Whoa Whoa hold up there. Wtf you talkin' about, you don't own me. You ain't puttin' jack sh!t on me. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-613515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 OK first off: i know this is the wrong section. But its the only place i might get an answer. Now for the question. I would like a qualification that i can put on my CV. But where can i get one? everywhere i look you can get a certificate but that's not recognized by most employers Thankyou Paul Whoa Whoa Whoa hold up there. Wtf you talkin' about, you don't own me. You ain't puttin' jack sh!t on me. Ba-dum-tish. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-613557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibberous Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I think your looking for a certification, a qualification would be knowing PHP, which is infinitely more important. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-613944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardyandkari Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I think your looking for a certification, a qualification would be knowing PHP, which is infinitely more important. not necessarily so...i know a guy who was network admin for approx 15 years. knew the system back to front. did everything. one day he was replaced by a guy straight from college. the difference... the guy i know didnt have a degree/certification/etc., he just knew his stuff. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-614071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 well i think he probably got replaced because the newbie probably cost a lot less. Tenure at a company does count for a good chunk of one's salary, esp. after being there for 15yrs. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-614125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardyandkari Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 and thats what is sad...if i owned a company, i wouldnt care if mr new guy costs $10,000 a year less or whatever...if mr stickaround has done a great job for 15 years, he would stay unless something came up... i used to do factory work and the same phrase came up all the time: If it aint broke, dont fix it! Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-614219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 If I could afford it I probably would keep mr stickaround over newbie but that's just because I'm not really seeking to be a millionaire. But then you know how it goes: the more money you make, the more you spend it. It's real easy for you to say that when you're not the boss, having to pay the bills and save money for company expansion. Not to mention potentially multiplying that by a dozen or 100 or thousands, depending on how big your company is and how many others are in that situation. Bottom line is the guy next door is gonna try to do what you do, only cheaper, and if you don't do something about it, mr stickaround isn't going to be sticking around anyways...and neither will you. So in order to compete, you have to find ways to reduce cost of business, and sometimes it just comes down to hiring the cheaper guy. Why do you think more and more corporations are outsourcing to poorer, more populated countries? It's because they will make it or do it cheaper. So the lesson here is that the real villain in all this is the consumer. Buyers don't really measure things by quality anymore. Or at best, it's 2nd fiddle to price and function. "It does the job better" is rarely considered anymore. Commercials have been feeding us that slogan for so long that we're slowly growing numb to it, from the toes on up. All we really care about now is that it simply "Does the job," and eventually all we'll really care about is that it just does something. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-614267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerRobot Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 ...and eventually all we'll really care about is that it just does something. LOL. Nowhere is this price-lowering mess seen better than in the food industry. A typical arugment with someone: Me: Why are you buying that supermarket chicken? Them: Because it's cheap Me: But it tastes like crap, is full of water and has nothing good left in it Them: But it's cheap Me: Well, no, its not. It's cheap because it's full of water and will shrink to a 1/4 of it's size when you cook it. Buy that butcher's one. Them: But it's expensive. And so on ad infinitum. I'm pretty sure you used to eat something that tasted good and was good for you. Now you just eat something. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/119146-qualification/#findComment-614370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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