ok Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 yes or no? why? thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I think flowcharts have sort of evolved into models. But anyways, if I were to give an answer based on the posts on this board, I'd say most people have an idea, maybe even scribble something down on paper, and then jump right into the coding....and then start asking questions about why something isn't working logic-wise or why can't they wrap their head around something else or why can't they get A to work with B or...the list goes on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Little Guy Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The only thing I place on paper, or design is the page layout (which sometimes changes many times). The coding could also change many times, and sometimes I am not even sure how I want the page to work... For example, last night I decided I wanted to change only one page from a page-page login to an AJAX login, just so the page doesn't have to reload and then reload the playing video. Sometimes on my sites I decide to completely dump an Idea and do something different. I feel (my opinion) that for my benefit, that flowcharts are useless. Flowcharts in no way help me, only would set me back due to the flowchart that is brewing up in my head, and changing faster than one that would be written down on a paper/computer. I have tried making a flowchart, and when I was done or halfway done, I decided I would rather code it then figure out the flow of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 People who work for themselves, by themselves, can sometimes get away with that. But that doesn't really work out when there are several people working on the same project. The whole point of putting things down on paper is not just to work something out design/logic-wise, but to overcome the fact that not everybody is psychic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ober Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I work for a software company and we have design meetings where flowcharting is used quite frequently. It is usually done on a whiteboard so it's rarely stored with the source, but requirements around here are usually kept with a diagram of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stooney Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I generally mspaint myself a flowchart to refer to just so I don't confuse myself later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadeemshafi9 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 if its a small bug no if its a whole system then yes i use ERD's if its a VERY complicated algorithm i use Jackson Structured Programming combined with pseudo programming i very rarley use object diagrams as the complexity of my OOP is very low i only use classes for certain things like teh database layer, data formatting and files etc, however if you were doing fully oop id use an object relation digram. if i was to do multi processing i would use a state digram omnigraffle for MAC OSX and SMartdraw for windows open office for linux and windows and mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadeemshafi9 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I work for a software company and we have design meetings where flowcharting is used quite frequently. It is usually done on a whiteboard so it's rarely stored with the source, but requirements around here are usually kept with a diagram of some sort. same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 God I hate flow charts. I think I can blame my lower grade teachers for that. I don't need a flow chart to write a damn essay. Anyway, usually I do atleast think through something before I begin coding, and sometimes I write stuff down. Never flow charts. NEVER!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadeemshafi9 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 God I hate flow charts. I think I can blame my lower grade teachers for that. I don't need a flow chart to write a damn essay. Anyway, usually I do atleast think through something before I begin coding, and sometimes I write stuff down. Never flow charts. NEVER!!!! if you learn UML u can enhance any endevour by pre planning the model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropfaith Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 agreed NEVER FLOW CHARTS NEVER i write out a basic sitemap type tree of how things need to flow out of my head *and about 3 percent of the time i keep to that paper* more often then not i rewrite the system when im coding tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinM1 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I tend to pseudo-UML my participants. I'll draw the basic skeleton of my systems, then flesh it out as I go. Since I have the artistic ability of a blind gnat, I tend to save the visual component till the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 God I hate flow charts. I think I can blame my lower grade teachers for that. I don't need a flow chart to write a damn essay. Anyway, usually I do atleast think through something before I begin coding, and sometimes I write stuff down. Never flow charts. NEVER!!!! if you learn UML u can enhance any endevour by pre planning the model I've looked into UML models before.... Far too lazy to make those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadeemshafi9 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 God I hate flow charts. I think I can blame my lower grade teachers for that. I don't need a flow chart to write a damn essay. Anyway, usually I do atleast think through something before I begin coding, and sometimes I write stuff down. Never flow charts. NEVER!!!! if you learn UML u can enhance any endevour by pre planning the model I've looked into UML models before.... Far too lazy to make those. my man , UML is just a standard, whatever takes your fancey you should put it on paper it makes sense deep down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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