iphetamine Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hi, i want to learn sql really well and become MS SQL Server 2005 certified, by this Ill be able to develop and administer databases, correct? Correct me if I'm wrong. So what can I do to pace myself for learning it? I've been reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity-relationship_model and http://www.tomjewett.com/dbdesign/dbdesign.php?page=intro.html to get started and understand the theory a bit. I also played around with MySQL using phpmyadmin (which was easier than typing everything console..). So what do you guys think? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Learn everything you can, is my only advice. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphetamine Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 Learn everything you can, is my only advice. :| Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Doesn't seem like :| worthy advice to me ;p. I know nothing about being a DBA, in fact, I would call my SQL skills moderate at best, but I would imagine it's not nearly as easy as it sounds at first thought. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
premiso Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 First off, MS SQL sucks, at least in my opinion. If you want to make big bucks in database administration, Oracle is the way to go. Although just to get oracle certified costs a pretty chunk of change. But once you are, the jobs you get make $100-200+k/year. But you need to take some actual classes, unlike programming DB Classes actually help out. I took an Oracle class in College, and have not regretted it. Taught me a lot about SQL, I just wish I would have taken the next step oracle class that went more into proper sql query structure and more indepth DB structures. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbin Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I personally have no issues with MSSQL, but yeah, I've heard that there's much better money in Oracle. Not sure if it's true or not though. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphetamine Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 I'm not an IT person, I'm a health professional and would seek a position in Informatics/Bioinformatics. so i need to know some basics of sql and databases. so i thought of getting MS certified too. so what do you guys suggest be doing? books? online tuts? (no w3school plz ) Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcombs_31 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I personally feel you should be involved in at least some form of IT support or have a formal education in something computer related to even begin contemplating a career as a DBA. At the very least a nice background in math and logic. To start, saying MS SQL sucks with nothing to back is just ridiculous. Some people may say the same about MySQL or Oracle, but each has its own market and in the end as the DBA you need to be proficient at database design and construction which doesn't necessarily rely on the platform. I do think that at least some form of a formal education is necessary, although some may be able to pull it off on their own, but those who can do that probably aren't asking on a PHP help forum where to start. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphetamine Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 I already started and there's no harm for seeking extra help and asking real professionals' opinion in the field. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
premiso Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 To start, saying MS SQL sucks with nothing to back is just ridiculous. Some people may say the same about MySQL or Oracle, but each has its own market and in the end as the DBA you need to be proficient at database design and construction which doesn't necessarily rely on the platform. Yea, that was just bad wording. I should have worded it more of, MSSQL is not my preference to start learning SQL on. That was my bad with poor choice of words. I just have had bad experiences with that in the past, so yea. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/144128-i-want-to-become-dba/#findComment-756794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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