dpacmittal Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Why not convert this forum to vBulletin since its the best out there? P.S. : This forum has been as inspiration to me. Whenever I think of getting a vBulletin license, I think of PHPFreaks and push the thoughts out of my mind. SMF has too many flaws, according to my experience with them. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's been discussed. Several times. Even as far as moving away from SMF in general, not necessarily to vB. I guess the bottom line is it's not a big enough deal to warrant the change at this time. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-875293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Which one is the best is a highly subjective matter. That being said, I don't like SMF either, and I would prefer other forum software. However, migrating a large forum is by no means a simple task. As far as I know, this is the third forum system PHP Freaks is using, and I think many staff members believe that switching the software all the time does more harm than good. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-875294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpacmittal Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Which one is the best is a highly subjective matter. That being said, I don't like SMF either, and I would prefer other forum software. However, migrating a large forum is by no means a simple task. As far as I know, this is the third forum system PHP Freaks is using, and I think many staff members believe that switching the software all the time does more harm than good. I didn't know this is the third you are using. And yes, its a pain in the arse to convert such a huge forum and not everything is converted nicely since all the forums have different database structure. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-875309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino1 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Both of my other favorite message board sites use vBulletin. That software has built in indexing, searching, etc. where there are tons of ways to filter and sort. After using different types of message board systems, that one really is the best. Plus, that would offload maintenance and update costs for CNET. I don't think it costs that much either, since neither of the other sites I use advertise that much or generate that much revenue. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-903165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbtophp Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I dont like SMF nor Vbulletin, Im an IPB guy. But I say leave phpfreaks as it is, changing forum software is uneeded, since phpfreaks is a large site it would just cause problems. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-903472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickadams Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I don't think it costs that much either, since neither of the other sites I use advertise that much or generate that much revenue. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-908103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I don't think it costs that much either, since neither of the other sites I use advertise that much or generate that much revenue. The costs aren't in the software we run, it's the hardware and bandwidth that it takes to support a site as busy as this one. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-908217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sKunKbad Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I've been a "super moderator" of a vBulletin form before, and I hate it. I think this forum is fine the way it is. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-913847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikram Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I think SMF is very user-friendly and there is no cost involved i think it's perfect for this site. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-917700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Cost is not just how much $$$ you pay for something. It's also what it takes to maintain and support it. I'm not implying about either product right now, but the fact that something is free to purchase/use does not mean it's better or even that it is cheaper in the long run. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-917709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikram Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Cost is not just how much $$$ you pay for something. It's also what it takes to maintain and support it. I'm not implying about either product right now, but the fact that something is free to purchase/use does not mean it's better or even that it is cheaper in the long run. When you say - "It's also what it takes to maintain and support it." Both SMF and VB have great support and many features considering SMF is free i think it's pretty good, i just dont like VB due to the fact it's a hassle even installing modifications etc, but i guess thats just my opinion. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-917714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 no he's talking about hosting costs and doing stuff like editing posts, moving them around, banning people, keeping backups of the database, etc.. costs us time to do the work (which we all donate), but then bandwidth is used that has to be paid for, storage space where it is hosted, etc.. those costs. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-917719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I'm not comparing SMF to vB here. I'm not even comparing anything at all. I'm simply saying that the fact that something is cheaper to purchase (or is entirely free) is not a good enough reason by itself. IF something else would happen to more expensive, but the added cost outweighed that, we would choose that product over the cheaper product. Within some limits of course. We wouldn't pay $10,000/mo for instance. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-917722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.josh Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 exactly. SoftwareA and SoftwareB both accomplish the same thing, but SoftwareB costs $50. But it also allows you to do things in 1 click instead of 20. Or takes a lot less bandwidth. Etc.. so in the long run, $50 may be worth it. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-917727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarn23 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 If your worried about bandwidth for any website isn't that what the page cache headers are for? Just thought I would mention that because cache headers should be applied on about every forum to save bandwidth. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-924691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 If your worried about bandwidth for any website isn't that what the page cache headers are for? Just thought I would mention that because cache headers should be applied on about every forum to save bandwidth. We were talking hypothetically, and bandwidth was an example. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-924823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigabyt3r Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 This is fine. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-927790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrsson Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Just wanted to post and say thank you to the admin's here for using SMF. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-953504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolphie Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 I agree, keeping PHPFreaks the way that it is has proved successful thus far. Don't try and fix something that doesn't need fixing, that's where Facebook is beginning to go wrong. Although, I've been playing about with "MyBB". Which is another open-source and free forum solution, it's pretty nice. Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-954122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyrer Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I agree, keeping PHPFreaks the way that it is has proved successful thus far. Don't try and fix something that doesn't need fixing, that's where Facebook is beginning to go wrong. Although, I've been playing about with "MyBB". Which is another open-source and free forum solution, it's pretty nice. Am with Wolhie, myBB is the best free alternative for vBulletin and free. Another good forum is phpBB 3 Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-964307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PugJr Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 How many times has this been revived? Quote Link to comment https://forums.phpfreaks.com/topic/165961-why-not-vbulletin/#findComment-964372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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