DEVILofDARKNESS Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Question is clear Do you use a cms like joomla, drupal, ... or an editor and your own logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I really don't like using CMS's like Jommla or Drupal. I use a couple of the well-known PHP frameworks for larger projects, but have my own little light-weight custom framework for the smaller projects. I use a few different editors as well depending where I am or what I'm doing... including vim, notepad++ and zend studio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVILofDARKNESS Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 I've never used a CMS, but today you read more and more about them and I was wondering how many people would use them. (php-people) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevans Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 The only CMS' I use are bespoke ones (built myself). I'm of a similar view to MrAdam, if I'm maknig a small site I'll use my own setup, but for bigger projects I use a frameweork (codeigniter). Â If a system I'm building requires a CMS it will be built within codeigniter. If I had the time and knowhow to create a framework capable of supporting large systems I would, but why re-invent the wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVILofDARKNESS Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 I really write every code on my own with a text-editor (with syntax highlithing ofcourse), why is a framework better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevans Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 When you make a system that would profit from the use of a framework, the benfits will become obvious. That may seem like an obvious statement, but until you feel like you need to use a framework you probably don't need to be using one.  Zend Framework, CakePHP, CodeIgniter  Search some of those frameworks in google and have a read of the information of the site. They explain the general idea of the frameworks, and their benefits. For a small project it can just be overkill, you'd spend more time setting up the framework and complying (in the case of Cake and CI) to the MVC design pattern, where it would be far faster to build from scratch.  EDIT  Also, until you do things the hard way (the proper way), like securing your own GET/POST data, validating input, working with databases, cookies and sessions you will not feel the benefits offered by the framework, or understand the importance of it's functions/methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 why is a framework better? Â Because it saves you from starting from scratch on every single project. If it's a good framework it'll also be well tested both using unit tests, but also in real development environments. This gives you a kind of quality assurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcoderx Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 notepad is the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zq29 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 notepad is the best. Butterflies are better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevans Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 notepad is the best. Butterflies are better... What about ladybirds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel0 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 notepad is the best. Â It's the only editor I know of that cannot even interpret LF as a new line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVILofDARKNESS Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Okay, I'm installing ZendFramework to test how it is, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 notepad is the best. Â Ow man you're hardcore, you're edgy establishment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventheyejosh Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 notepad is the best.  Ow man you're hardcore, you're edgy establishment!  LMAO  On a PC I prefer notepad++, on a mac, smultron. I just wish that smultron did the function/class/if/etc collapsing with the little + and -.  On another note. I really appreciate the fact that I learned to code html, php, javascript, mysql etc etc in a basic setup. Syntax highlighting rules, but for example, we have an html / css lady here who I convinced to try Smultron instead of Dreamweaver. Without the autocomplete, she can't even remember how an <a href> tag is supposed to be typed... I just feel that stuff like that, while easy and cool, Is not the best if you're looking to truely learn, and understand what you're doing.  Just my two cents  Josh  EDIT: I just now saw the poll at the top. Shouldn't we have 1. Own code, as in old school junk. 2. Open source CMS, Joomla, etc. And 3. Custom made CMS?  Because I roll with CMS, but would never support Joomla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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.josh Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I feel like people are comparing apples (text editors) to oranges (frameworks) to bananas (CMSs) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventheyejosh Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I think it is more the style then the actual item. Start from scratch, start with your system, start with someone else's. Yea a framework is different than a cms is different than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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